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    Quote Originally Posted by Akril View Post
    Never heard about it during my work time on UOMZ. Thats the SPP devise after all.
    F hell, you are correct. Had to check Smotr series now, this for those that are interested:



    NIIPP is the older name for NPK-SSP right? Logo is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metberkut View Post
    NIIPP is the older name for NPK-SSP right? Logo is the same.
    There is something like dozen NIIPPs, including the one from Zhukovsky that also makes avionics, so the Moscow NII PP, the one we are talking about, has changed abbreviation to NPK PPS (SPP was typo as yours SSP ) for the sake of clarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metberkut View Post
    And very understandably so.
    Why to add aditional weight to a fighter that will mostly fly air superiority mission.
    if nedded to bomb key targets it can use GLONASS guided bombs or tv guided bombs which dont need targeted pod.
    remember the f-35 was firstly build for strike missions of key targets that why it have ols integrated inside it.now f-35 is given the air superiority mission which IMO isnt addeguate for this mission

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikoyan.1991 View Post
    remember the f-35 was firstly build for strike missions of key targets that why it have ols integrated inside it.now f-35 is given the air superiority mission which IMO isnt addeguate for this mission
    Incorrect. It's always been intended as a multirole aircraft like the F-16 and Rafale.

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    achive air superiority an aircraft with turn rate worse than f-4 .it was a strike plane than was given air super.mission

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    is any other country apart from Russia or India interested in the PAK FA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomlyGenerated View Post
    is any other country apart from Russia or India interested in the PAK FA?
    Reportedly Vietnam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Reportedly Vietnam.
    Seriously...? i don't personally think that's a good move

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikoyan.1991 View Post
    achive air superiority an aircraft with turn rate worse than f-4 .it was a strike plane than was given air super.mission
    Sounds like you've got the F-35 mixed up with something else. Might want to pull your head out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomlyGenerated View Post
    Seriously...? i don't personally think that's a good move
    if Vietnam got the cash, why not, they operate flankers already (some of them look really dated by now), so PAK FA makes the logical choice for future replacement

    PAK FA is seriously geared towards foreign sales, especially with current Flankers operators with booming economy like India, Vietnam, Indonesia

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    i know f-35 has air superiority capability,mostly BVR.in WVR is not good coz its manueverly is really bad.
    according to USAF f-22 would be an air superiority fighter which duty was clear the skies (it has also some ground attach capability),while f-35 would be cheaper stealth multirole in f-16 role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikoyan.1991 View Post
    i know f-35 has air superiority capability,mostly BVR.in WVR is not good coz its manueverly is really bad.
    Do you have any evidence of this? Any at all? No? Then STFU about it already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.puffs View Post
    where's your "constructive debate"? Show us some evidence to back your claim. Oh, that's right, you can't because you don't have any.
    i dont have time to argue with u.i can understand just when u said that f-35 is a manuveuer fighter,in fact is a flying whale

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikoyan.1991 View Post
    i dont have time to argue with u.i can understand just when u said that f-35 is a manuveuer fighter,in fact is a flying whale
    Looks like I've encountered a fanboy. Welcome to the ignore feature.

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    Go and sleep kid.your avatar is telling me i am arguing with a kid.

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