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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon PhoeniX View Post
    New picture surfaced, no one is really sure what it is though, some say it could be a simulator, others say it could be T-50.
    Quite unlikely that this is the real deal:

    - Too low to be an airplane
    - Non-monolithic canopy

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    Looks like an Yak-130 simulator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenis View Post
    Looks like an Yak-130 simulator.
    Have you ever seen Yak-130? Do you know it is a two seater? Or that the canopy system is totally different? Not to mention the seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon PhoeniX View Post
    New picture surfaced, no one is really sure what it is though, some say it could be a simulator, others say it could be T-50.
    Rafale trainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ult View Post
    Rafale trainer.
    Dont think it is the same. Structure is different:

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Franc...e-B/1627570/L/

    Besides, why would Zelin and other bunch of russian MOD dudes travel to France just to sit in a Rafale sim? And rafale canopy doesnt open backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metberkut View Post
    Dont think it is the same. Structure is different:

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Franc...e-B/1627570/L/

    Besides, why would Zelin and other bunch of russian MOD dudes travel to France just to sit in a Rafale sim? And rafale canopy doesnt open backwards.
    It's 100% rafale.
    Российская военная делегация начала визит во Францию
    14.12.09 14:24 Армия, ВПК, спецслужбы
    В понедельник начался визит во Францию российской военной делегации во главе с начальником Генштаба Вооруженных Сил РФ - первым замминистра обороны РФ генералом армии Николаем Макаровым

    В ходе визита руководитель российского Генштаба встретится со своим французским коллегой - начальником штаба Вооруженных Сил Франции армейским генералом Жан-Луи Жоржеленом, начальником Главного управления по вооружениям Министерства обороны Франции Лораном Колле-Бийоном, другими представителями французского оборонного ведомства. В ходе встречи будут обсуждаться вопросы дальнейшего развития и углубления сотрудничества двух стран в военной области.

    В соответствии с программой визита Макаров планирует ознакомиться с рядом военных объектов и учреждений - Военной школой, Центром планирования и руководства операциями Вооруженных Сил Франции, Командованием воздушных операций и противовоздушной обороны Военно-воздушных сил Франции.

    Начальник Генштаба ВС РФ посетит также авиабазу Сен-Дизье, где состоится презентация истребителя-бомбардировщика "Рафаль", будет присутствовать на командно-штабных учениях штаба 9 бронекавалерийской бригады марин Сухопутных Войск Франции.

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    Yeah, just before i read you message here now i found same info on a different site. Sorry, you were right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon PhoeniX View Post
    New picture surfaced, no one is really sure what it is though, some say it could be a simulator, others say it could be T-50.





    http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic....d=a&start=2550
    From Defense Forums Of India

    labeled T-50 Cockpit


    f-22

    f-35
    Last edited by eATS; 01-16-2010 at 06:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metberkut View Post
    Besides, why would Zelin and other bunch of russian MOD dudes travel to France just to sit in a Rafale sim? And rafale canopy doesnt open backwards.
    Maybe taken at MAKS. IIRC a Rafale was there as well.

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    Both of you don't care to read previous posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ult View Post
    Both of you don't care to read previous posts?
    You didnt read mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ult View Post
    Both of you don't care to read previous posts?
    I did read, and read about it yesterday. Was just curious where the Russian delegation was when the picture was taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakfast in Vegas View Post
    I did read, and read about it yesterday. Was just curious where the Russian delegation was when the picture was taken.
    Copy of my post with google translate.
    Russia military delegation started a visit to France
    14.12.09 14:24 Army, defense industry, intelligence
    Monday began a visit to France, Russia's military delegation headed by the Chief of General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia - First Deputy Defense Minister Army General Nikolai Makarov

    During the visit, the head of Russia's General Staff will meet with his French counterpart - Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces of the French Army General Jean-Louis Zhorzhelenom Chief of General Armaments Department of Defense of France, Laurent Collet-Biyonom, other representatives of the French Defense Ministry. The meeting will discuss issues of further development and deepening of cooperation between the two countries in military field.

    In accordance with the plans to visit Makarov acquainted with a number of military facilities and institutions - the military school, the Center for planning and managing operations of the Armed Forces of France, the Command of Air Operations and Air Defense Air Force in France.

    Chief of General Staff of the Armed Forces will also visit the Saint-Dizier airbase, where he will be a presentation of the fighter-bomber Rafale, will be present at the command post exercises Headquarters 9 Brigade bronekavaleriyskoy Marine Land Forces in France.
    Quote Originally Posted by metberkut View Post
    You didnt read mine.
    I did. And as far as I can tell you weren't discussing this obvious fake after that?

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    Gotcha, thanks.

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    so that must be Rafale simulator. some dude took photos of him trying it out.







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