Thread: Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA

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    you do recognize that it's just a CGI picture, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susumu View Post
    you do recognize that it's just a CGI picture, don't you?
    but of course)

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    here are a mess of renders some are the bulat model under the camo net. i quit posting renders cause it got out of hand. first one is my model im working on...






























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    We know for absolute certain it will not have F-35 air inlets. Any one with any common sense who wants a future engine upgrade will look at the design, fall off their chairs laughing and slam dunk them into the garbage.

    Nice renders - the second pic down is a shape I would put a wager on.

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    what a big week.

    First the mythical apple tablet, and then the PAKFA

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    Aww you guys. Do you REALLY think this thing is real? It's a figment to make us think the Russians are still relevant. Of course, I'll eat my words IF it ever actually appears. But, let's ask ourselves - WHY is it so secret? They cannot possibly think the "west" has anything to learn from them, surely?

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    go troll some other thread please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwinder View Post
    Aww you guys. Do you REALLY think this thing is real? It's a figment to make us think the Russians are still relevant. Of course, I'll eat my words IF it ever actually appears. But, let's ask ourselves - WHY is it so secret? They cannot possibly think the "west" has anything to learn from them, surely?
    well I guess you'll be eating your words pretty soon then)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilgor View Post
    what a big week.

    First the mythical apple tablet, and then the PAKFA
    you are more like Killjoy than a Kilgor man)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susumu View Post
    go troll some other thread please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwinder View Post
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    dude seriously what's the point of your posts? wanna discuss the major snafus in the F22 program? or how F35 is not going to match the superior F22 in capability and will probably cost even more by the time it enters production? then create another thread ... you and Kiljoy the Evil Clown are just haters with nothing meaningful to contribute
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwinder View Post
    Aww you guys. Do you REALLY think this thing is real? It's a figment to make us think the Russians are still relevant. Of course, I'll eat my words IF it ever actually appears. But, let's ask ourselves - WHY is it so secret? They cannot possibly think the "west" has anything to learn from them, surely?
    Three lines of wisodm to cross out 122 pages of discussion on Mp.net. You truly are a revolutionary.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbedeu View Post
    Interesting, so it will be smaller and lighter than a SU-27, but still be equipped with an internal weapons bay? Wonder how that is gonna work?
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    Aren't Russian missiles generally marginally larger than their Western equivalents also?

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    There is no point in asking such questions now because there is no verifiable information so it is impossible to answer. One thing is for sure - the russians wouldn`t spend billions of dollars on this plane if it can`t carry enough weapons to do the job. Also although nothing is certain at the moment it is highly probable that the PAK-FA will have air to ground capability from the beginning.
    Interesting, so it will be smaller and lighter than a SU-27, but still be equipped with an internal weapons bay? Wonder how that is gonna work?
    Most likely it will cary less missiles in its weapons bay than the Su-27 on its hardpoints but then again the F-22 probably also carries less missiles in its weapons bay than the F-15 on its hardpoints. The direct competitor of PAK-FA is not Su-27 but F-22.

    Aren't Russian missiles generally marginally larger than their Western equivalents also?
    The designers of the PAK-FA have most certainly considered the size of russian missiles when they designed their plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbedeu View Post
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    Aren't Russian missiles generally marginally larger than their Western equivalents also?
    R77 is only 2 cm wider in diameter than AIM-120 AMRAAM or only 1cm in radius.. weighs 20kg more.. but is actually 6cm shorter.. so marginally is the correct choice of words my friend.. we're talking about 10mm difference here
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