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    Quote Originally Posted by Russianlynxy View Post
    personally I think the aircraft will look somewhat like this. It shares resemblance with the "pin" that was presented at MAKS, and it has already been mentioned several times by the developers that the aircraft will be wide to house a large internal weapons bay.
    That is what I think, too.

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    Looks like a mix between the YF-22 and the YF-23... :/

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    That is what you'll get if you replace sweepward wings of su-47. I'm pretty sure it's very far from reality.

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    LOL no way that's the new uberfighter. Way too many unstealthy bits all over the airframe.

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    Canards on a stealth fighter is a no no. Lockheed Martin tried it, Northrop tried it, Boeing tried it, and all said the same thing 'canards are a no no'.

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    My monies on a squashed, stretched and wider smoothed pout SU-27 look, just like the one above on the right.

    Look how the F-22 was like squashing and smoothing out an F-15 eagle; same here I wager, longer, wider and deeper with alot of smooth lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2495 View Post
    My monies on a squashed, stretched and wider smoothed pout SU-27 look, just like the one above on the right.

    Look how the F-22 was like squashing and smoothing out an F-15 eagle; same here I wager, longer, wider and deeper with alot of smooth lines.
    Yessir, and none of those silly antennas and odd bits sticking out of the fuselage on that earlier drawing. I'm sure that'd paint a pretty picture on an RCS chart

    The squashed Flanker looks doable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2495 View Post

    My monies on a squashed, stretched and wider smoothed pout SU-27 look, just like the one above on the right.

    Look how the F-22 was like squashing and smoothing out an F-15 eagle; same here I wager, longer, wider and deeper with alot of smooth lines.
    Just like the F-15 is a squashed and smoothed out Mig-25.

    Joking aside, I think you're right on the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ult View Post
    That is what you'll get if you replace sweepward wings of su-47. I'm pretty sure it's very far from reality.
    I'm not expert but I think they all said that canards don't help RCS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abanamat85 View Post
    I'm not expert but I think they all said that canards don't help RCS
    A stealthy canard would have to be fixed - and we all know thats no good at all. Also, forward swept wings reflect energy back at the fueslage and then scatter wildy. A major no no.

    Squashed, wider, longer SU-27 with no weird bumps and lumps, and a very nice set of turky feathered exhaust pipes

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2495 View Post
    A stealthy canard would have to be fixed - and we all know thats no good at all. Also, forward swept wings reflect energy back at the fueslage and then scatter wildy. A major no no.

    Squashed, wider, longer SU-27 with no weird bumps and lumps, and a very nice set of turky feathered exhaust pipes
    Turkey feathered? Angled and flat like on the F-22? The badge makes them appear round though, also peoples' speculative renderings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrxyz View Post
    Turkey feathered? Angled and flat like on the F-22? The badge makes them appear round though, also peoples' speculative renderings.
    Oh no, they will be round, just with very 'F-35' type nozzles. have a close look at the rear of an F-35, and you see a very strange spikey nozzle - thats a stealthy turkey feathered nozzle.

    The F-22 nozzle is amazing, way stealthier than the F-35s.

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    http://www.codeonemagazine.com/archi...ail/index.html

    Scroll down the page to the bottom - there is a picture showing what i mean - a very spikey, radar reflecting nozzle design.

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    Thank you for the explanation I haven't seen such nozzles before.

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