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    Quote Originally Posted by HangPC2 View Post





    this is a good post, notice the thrust vectoring powerplant.
    this would be a definate advance above the type of thrust vectoring f-22 has.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstorm View Post
    Mikoyan isn't involved in the PAK-FA project, it's just Sukhoi. The only thing I heard about is some of the equipment that was on MiG-1-42/44 will be on PAK-FA like the AL-41F engines, but that might be temporary because Sukhoi is looking towards NPO Saturn or FGUP MMPP Salyut engines in the future.
    Russian aircraft corporation MiG "was headed by director of" Sukhoi "Mikhail Pogosyan


    The Director General of the Soviet / Russian aircraft corporation MiG appointed Mikhail Pogosyan, head Aviatsionnuyu holding company Sukhoi, told Interfax-AVN on Sunday a source in the Government of the Russian Federation.

    "Order Rosimuschestva from December 31, Mikhail Pogosyan was appointed head of a corporation MIG for a period of three years.The same order of former head of the corporation Anatoly Belov relieved from his post - said the agency interlocutor.

    He recalled that at the end of last year, meeting the board of directors of OJSC "Russian aircraft corporation MiG, recommended approval of M. Poghosian office director of the corporation.

    According to the interlocutor agency shortly M. Poghosian will be formally presented to the staff of the corporation and will assume responsibilities of the director of RSK MiG. "In doing so, he would retain the post of head of the Aviation Holding Company Sukhoi," - said the agency interlocutor.

    Source:www.aviaport.ru
    Date:11.01.2009

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    Thanks for the information eATS.

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    My final words in this thread

    Dear all,
    since the beginning of this Saga, I have tried to post only reliable, unbiased and truthful information about the programme of the "5th gen. fighter", PAK FA, T-50, whatever it might be called and is called by the "community" and the gullible media and "experts". Obviously, because of the aforementioned ethical prerequisites, I haven't posted that much.
    For the time being, I am relatively proud to say that none of my "supputations", suppositions and information that I have provided has proven untrue. Indeed, it seems that Zelin himself confirms (for example) the all-aspect sensor fusion I have talked about more than a year ago.
    I have also written here that the "PAK FA" or whatever will be "more like the YF-23 than the F-22". I have also stated that those who expect some kind of flying sauski or Firefox will be disappointed, as the RuAF requirements for the PAK FA differ from USAF requirements for the Raptor. I have also pointed out that the main breakthrough, and the main challenge, of the PAK FA programme will not be new aerodynamics, amazing stealth or incredible overall characteristics, but simply total sensor fusion and the implementation of brand new weapon systems and a very potent sensor/RWR/ECM suite.

    Why do I point that out again?
    Because this post is going to be my last post on this thread until the subject matter will publicly fly.
    Why that?
    I am sick and tired of reading speculations and trying to temperate them.
    I am sick and tired of seeing artists renderings, some good, some less, being naively discussed as if the honorable person who devised them on his or her PC between 2am and a bottle of Moskovskaya (or Château Rotschild 1956 for that matter, I don't care) had the Sukhoi blueprints next to the keyboard.
    And on top of it, I am very, very tired of all the nationalist, pro-Russian, anti-Russian, pseudo-pro-anti-Russian redneck whatever ramblings that seem to enthuse the hon. members of this board much more than thinking about the next word they will use in order to describe their honorable feelings.

    My last input:
    Russian mass-media are not autocracy-driven, or democratic, or free, or unfree - they are just (for defense matter) mostly lame and incompetent.
    Zelin has talked about 3 "5th gen. programmes".
    He meant: PAK FA, PAK DA, future land-attack UCAV. No it's not the Skat.
    He did not mention any "august 2009" deadline. The journalists made that up.

    The said programme is doing well and progressing fast.
    The airframes are all but ready.
    Integration will be a big challenge, but I'm confident.
    And again, "the first flight will not be the first"

    Now.
    If I wouldn't be so upset about what I read and if I would claim some recognition and respect, I would certainly humbly ask the moderators to close the thread till next summer at least because it's getting nowhere.
    But as I'm certainly not - please go on and speculate further and further - the sky's the limit.
    Till you see the real thing you all dream about, sometime next year, and then start an infinite number of threads like "PAK FA (it will be Su-.. ... by the time) vs F-22", "PAK FA is a hoax" or "PAK FA is not really stealthy (for flamers)".

    All in all, God bless you all, let 2009 be better than the pundits say it will be and clear skies ahead.

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    Am I missing something? What does a quote from keypub that mostly is about someone tired of posting has to do with the topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard1024 View Post
    Am I missing something? What does a quote from keypub that mostly is about someone tired of posting has to do with the topic?

    the radar system was what pissed him off, 4th generation radar from current Su is all they have so far for PAK and a arguement on wether the F/A-22 radar can multitask...

    i read that whole thread before i started this one...so much speculation at this point.

    getting solid info right now is like looking/waiting for a WZ-10 photo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstorm View Post
    Thanks for the information eATS.
    NP

    i wanted to know about that too, even looked at MiG and Su manufacturing faclities on google earth for the new wingshapes, nothing current unless i missed something visually...

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    concept




    123456

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggk View Post
    concept
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    It is concept of macros anime fan....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Woland View Post
    It is concept of macros anime fan....
    ha ha i didnt know that

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggk View Post
    ha ha i didnt know that
    It isn't any official concept. And this case produse a lot of amateur concepts. People feed there imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eATS View Post
    the radar system was what pissed him off, 4th generation radar from current Su is all they have so far for PAK and a arguement on wether the F/A-22 radar can multitask...
    Actually they have an new gen AESA (not Shuk-AE) ,wich is already in KNAAPO and waiting to be installed in one of the three prototypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard1024 View Post
    Am I missing something? What does a quote from keypub that mostly is about someone tired of posting has to do with the topic?

    well is from RSM55 always quoted for truth on russian affairs
    GazB knows

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