Originally Posted by metberkut
UHM, how about a no? The more things change, the more they stand the same.
Norway have one foot in F-35 program (imho, a foot in sh!t.), and it is way way too late to pull out. There is bigger chance that Headman will make any sense, than Norway buying PAK-FA. Btw, could people just ignore Headman?
you don't read my post before , it's ridiculous , change you glasses !!
I talks about norway on previous post , pak fa is impossible, because norway in NATO american defense. End debate
Last edited by headman; 05-19-2010 at 11:33 AM.
When i make a technical analysis of the pak fa , everytime a guy talking about the F22 is supposedly unbeatable and better , bla-bla-bla.....
It reminds me the history of SR71 blackbird, which was supposedly unbeatable, until such time as the MIG 31 sniffs her buttocks and sends it to retirement by USAF, sorry fanboy F22 .
I've read a lot of post on this thread and a lot a people on here are 'fanboys' of the PAK-FA if you didn't notice the hundreds of post of "this jet is better than the F-22" with no facts to support such outrageous claims.
F-22 has already proven its a jet that no other jet in service can match. I mean a 150 million dollar jet should be a 70 million dollar PAK-FA right? And seeing how the F-22 has no flaws in any area I think comparing a untested less stealthy PAK-FA to the F-22 to be ignorant in itself..
You seriously like to drink Lockheed's kool-aid when it comes to the F-35, don't you?.
I mean, come one, these aircraft are not meant to dogfight as their primary combat profile. The very reason why F-22 has only two Sidewinders is because these are self-defense weapons in case the original mission fails and it was FORCED within visual range.
AIM-120D and RVV-AE is where its at.
Anyway, why are we discussing F-35 in a PAK-FA thread?
The Phantom lesson of Vietnam is another case in point that dogfighting skills are still vital, even if that lesson is 40 years old.
Things can change, and with these aircraft looking at 20-30 year lifespans, they probably will.
Never said that they did, but what they did do is take it to a whole new level.Oh, great. NG and LM invented the IRST! Yippee.
Anyways, to further prove my point, here's an AIM-9X doing a near 180 degree turn without EO/DAS.
So this talk of "drinking LM koolade", implying that they're lying, is fallacious.