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    Might as well use the "official" ones without the crap in the way.





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    Quote Originally Posted by nyati13 View Post
    At 0:28 it shows the central weapons bays, and the bay doors appear to be better fitted (no gaps at all) compared to 50-1 and 50-2.
    I'd go with low resolution as the reason for "no gaps" until I see high resolution images. It is in light grey, so naturally even the smallest gaps have to be visible, and there has to be a gap since it is not made out of one piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    I'd go with low resolution as the reason for "no gaps" until I see high resolution images. It is in light grey, so naturally even the smallest gaps have to be visible, and there has to be a gap since it is not made out of one piece.
    True that. But from the angle the video was taken, the surface did appear to be glossier.

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    What is the budget allocated for PAK-FA program by RF MOD ?

    Does India has any contribution to the current PAK-FA program or will it come along with FGFA ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinJ View Post
    What is the budget allocated for PAK-FA program by RF MOD ?

    Does India has any contribution to the current PAK-FA program or will it come along with FGFA ?
    I imagine Sukhoi is putting up a decent amount of its own funds for the program as well.

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    Sukhoi payed for it from own pocket until 2006 or so IIRC. When it comes to the price, per mid 2010 30 billions was spent, and it was planned to use 30 billions more. So, around 60 billions (Russians use "milliard" instead of billiard) in total, that is in rubles. Someone else can do conversion into dollars. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by metberkut View Post
    Sukhoi payed for it from own pocket until 2006 or so IIRC. When it comes to the price, per mid 2010 30 billions was spent, and it was planned to use 30 billions more. So, around 60 billions (Russians use "milliard" instead of billiard) in total, that is in rubles. Someone else can do conversion into dollars. :P
    30 Rubles is 1 dollar, more or less. So about $2 billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by void View Post
    30 Rubles is 1 dollar, more or less. So about $2 billion.
    Sounds tiny compare to the sixty something $ billions of F-22. And also someone put unit cost of PAK-FA from 47-57 M. It sounds really low even for a prototype.

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    47-57M sounds like pure BS number. Su-35S cost more than that.

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    T 50 3 finally flew, since it has radar I expected that it whould not have that anoying nose probe and it didn't so thats good. When will T 50 3 be painted?
    Also about when is T 50 4 schedueled to be complete and fly,didn't T 50 3 and T 50 4 start assembly at about the same time so T 50 4 will be finished soon as well?

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    Press release from KNAAPO along with pictures:

    http://www.knaapo.ru/rus/news/archiv...1-5FCFDE5529D1

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    Quote Originally Posted by void View Post
    30 Rubles is 1 dollar, more or less. So about $2 billion.
    Guys don't even try to figure out Russian R&D system. Or in this case, adding to the fact that exact number is classified(even with the lightest degree). The fact is that these numbers were given only for Sukhoi and these were government funds. As somebody said MoD paid only 15-20% in total. Everything else was paid through other ministrys and Sukhoi own money. For ex. an engine programme is funded by Ministry of industry etc. So if you suppose that the 2bln$ are paid directly to Sukhoi by MoD, then the total cost of programme (or at least of initial configuration of T-50) will be around 10bn$. That is more realistic number(and that will include probably prototypes and pre-series aircraft).

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    I may have missed this answer, but what radar is to be expected for PAK FA? Any specifications (guess I suppose at this point)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
    I may have missed this answer, but what radar is to be expected for PAK FA? Any specifications (guess I suppose at this point)?
    Umm, it has been discussed in this thread many times, the radar has been shown at MAKS, it is featured in several publications, it is featured in several TV segments on Russian TV about Tikhomirov, etc etc. AFAIK it has 1500+ TR modules, other than that the specs arent disclosed. (such as the power of each module)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
    I may have missed this answer, but what radar is to be expected for PAK FA? Any specifications (guess I suppose at this point)?
    Check the latest issue of Take Off Magazine , it has some details on AFAR radar and PAK-FA program

    http://en.take-off.ru/pdf_to/to21.pdf

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