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    SFR of Yugoslavia F-86e Sabre

    One of many paradoxes of the post WWII Yugoslavia was being the only eastern European country that called itself communist, but wasn’t the part of Warsaw pact, and furthermore it was receiving western military support. Yugoslavia was called “east for the west, and west for the east”. On reflection, those grounds had the same role throughout history. Being on the crossroads did not bring much luck to its people.

    As such, the Yugoslav Air Force in fifties, and sixties managed to paint red stars on some very advanced flying machines from the American inventory of the day. The last in the line of western fighter jets sent to Yugoslavia was F-86D, Sabre Dog. It remained in Yugoslav service until the 1970s, and for a while it flew together with MiG-21. This was a unique occurrence in the world.
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    The D model Sabre was a classic....in the town I grew up in there was one on display on a pole but it eventually got taken down for lack of maintenance....afaik a town a few miles away still has one though. Thanks for the pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by denneym1 View Post
    The D model Sabre was a classic....in the town I grew up in there was one on display on a pole but it eventually got taken down for lack of maintenance....afaik a town a few miles away still has one though. Thanks for the pics!
    I think there is still one similar to that setup In downtown Chandler(Arizona)
    Back in the day this use to be some sort of drop off point for people heading towards Williams AF base.

    http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=3...02065&t=h&z=20

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    I seen one of the F-86's in Brcko when I deployed to Bosnia in 1996. At first glance we all thought it was a Mig 15. Who would have thought the US would have given a communist country weapons. Belive it or not we also found a cache of explosives and chemicals in a cave with US markings!

    Did Yugoslavia recieve any small arms?

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    vulpine

    Certainly though, with armored vehicles that will provide them with firearms Americans came this country

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulpine View Post
    I seen one of the F-86's in Brcko when I deployed to Bosnia in 1996. At first glance we all thought it was a Mig 15. Who would have thought the US would have given a communist country weapons. Belive it or not we also found a cache of explosives and chemicals in a cave with US markings!

    Did Yugoslavia recieve any small arms?
    Yeah they did the Thompson .45 submachine gun for sure think we got 50,000 in WW2 and were used by the paramilitrys of all ethnic groups

    I could be wrong on the number.Remember scum Tito accepted
    Anglo-American aid when the propaganda that teh partizans
    were killing more Germans than my main man Draza.

    America was a friend of Tito because he walked the line between Stalin and allies.

    Am I right?
    Last edited by INAT; 01-31-2009 at 03:08 AM.

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    Awesome, I had no idea about the F-86s in Yugoslavian service.

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    Few more pics that I found in my HDD (some artwork found here):






    These are just one type of the US military aid Yugoslavia received from the US. M4A3 Shermans, M36 TDs, M18 TDs, M8 Greyhounds, M47 Pattons, F-84G, T-33A, F-86, T-6...

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    the F-86D resembles a lot a Fiat G-91


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    A lot? Was the Fiat a license built copy?

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    I don't know...but when I saw the pics I immediatly tought it was a Fiat G-91

    as far as I know the G-91 was a joint project from Italy and Germany

    I think they were 2 totally diferent projects, but the resemblence is uncanny

    The North American Aviation F-86D Sabre (sometimes called the "Sabre Dog" or "Dog Sabre") was a transonic jet all-weather interceptor. Based on North American's F-86 Sabre day fighter, the F-86D had only 25 percent commonality with other Sabre variants, with a larger fuselage, larger afterburning engine, and a distinctive nose radome.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-86D_Sabre

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    Quote Originally Posted by INAT View Post
    Yeah they did the Thompson .45 submachine gun for sure think we got 50,000 in WW2 and were used by the paramilitrys of all ethnic groups

    I could be wrong on the number.Remember scum Tito accepted
    Anglo-American aid when the propaganda that teh partizans
    were killing more Germans than my main man Draza.

    America was a friend of Tito because he walked the line between Stalin and allies.

    Am I right?
    "Scum" Tito and your "main man" draza.


    What a dolt

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    Quote Originally Posted by budgie View Post
    A lot? Was the Fiat a license built copy?
    Very indirectly. FIAT was involved in the manufacture of a simplified version of the F-86D, the cannon-armed F-86K. The experience gained obviously influenced the design of the "Gina", which was intended as a NATO standard light strike fighter. Eventually adopted only by Italy, Germany (licanse built by Dornier) and Portugal.

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    After the clash with stalin in 1948, NATO actualy invited Yugoslavia to join. But Tito invented independent countries. In 1953 US defence department sugested the congres to alowe the donations of weapons. Congres said that those weapons are too sofisticated for Yugoslavia, so YU army perform an excersize with two sides where each third round, projectile, grenade or bomb was real. And they got weapons.

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    What a sexy aircraft that Sabre is, can't wait for this airshow season to see that Golden Hawks Sabre flying around.

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