Reply With QuoteWings are for doing hte Jumps course having Passed Pcoy.
The Lid is awarded to anyone serving in 16AA Bde. Including fat panwashers and chicks.
Some excellent photos guys!
The Reme Para bloke in that vid, he has a Maroon beret but no Para Wings? so is he Airborne attached?
Do forgive if my question sounds a little stupid, but I'm 15 and unsure, this is my dads account
Wings are for doing hte Jumps course having Passed Pcoy.
The Lid is awarded to anyone serving in 16AA Bde. Including fat panwashers and chicks.
Thanks Bluffcove, was going to ask my dad but he is at work so I couldn't. Thanks very much.Originally Posted by bluffcove
Wings can be worn by anybody who has suscsefully completed the jumps course at brize. The marroon berret is awarded on sucseful completion of P company. You can do jumps and never go anywhere near P company.
The lid is for anyone is 16AA ,
go figure, Wings are for jumps, after that its all a bit of a polava!
Soldiers from 1st Battalion The Rifles conduct a casualty evacuation exercise on Salisbury Plain during pre-deployment training for their forthcoming tour of Afghanistan [Picture: Corporal James Williams, Crown Copyright/MOD 2011]
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My understanding is that wings are worn by personnel who have conmpleted the jumps course and are, or have, served in an airborne unit. For instance someone who has passed P Coy but not been posted to an airborne unit would wear the 'lightbulb' badge.
Oh, and the beret isn't awarded, it is issued and worn. Awarding makes it sound like it is earned.
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A British-trained hero of the Afghan National Army (ANA) showed the true grit and courage of the Paras who coached him when he shrugged and carried on fighting after he was recently shot. Sergeant Rasoul Bamyani is congratulated on his lucky escape by his 2 PARA colleagues - from left: Lieutenant Jonny Mortimer-Hendry, Private Andrew Goldsmith, Private Mark Vidler, Lance Corporal Craig Shuttleworth and Privates Robin Farley and Martin Glen [Picture: Crown Copyright/MOD 2011]
QUOTE=Nige;5514407]My understanding is that wings are worn by personnel who have conmpleted the jumps course and are, or have, served in an airborne unit. For instance someone who has passed P Coy but not been posted to an airborne ubit would wear the 'lightbulb''badge.
Oh, and the beret isn't awarded, it is issued and worn. Awarding makes it sound like it is earned.[/QUOTE]
The Berret is earned, you have to complete P company to earn the right to wear the berret. some guys may be posted into an airborne support unit and be given the berret straight away, however they will have to complete P company with in the 1st year of service on that unit. this allows time to find slots on courses. When one of the rifle battilions went down to join 3 cdo brgade a couple of years ago (reforce for one of the commandos which was understregth becuase it was providing all the manning for the vikings in afghan at the time) they all got given lovet green berrets with having completed the all arms comando course, this really pissed of the royals at the time. Im lead to beleive they did eventually have to complete the course.
Wings can be worn by anyone who has sucesfully completed the parachute course at PTS brinze norton having jumped out of an aircraft, theres a french exhange pilot wearing them at LYE at the moment. If you have completed a jumps course using a ballon only as a platform you are only entitled to wear the light bulb, as seen on the scripture readers uniform also at LYE.
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Rain, mud, 4 time zones and the small issue of a 3500 mile gap did not deter members of the Close Support Logistics Regiment (CSLR) in Afghanistan conducting a 24-hour ‘runathon’, along with their partners and wives in Colchester. A total of 64 soldiers from the Regiment HQ, Light Aid Detachment REME, Comms Troop, Training Wing and 15 & 63 Sqn each ran for an hour around their operational base at Camp Bastion whilst, at the same time, a number of wives, partners and a few friends ran around their home base in Colchester. In support of the Army Benevolent Fund, men and women braved the cold, muddy terrain of Afghanistan and the rain-swept park of Abbey Fields near Merville Barracks to raise in excess of $1450. Some of these troops ran 3 legs of this event at all times of day and night.
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I believe you are mistaken, on all counts, except maybe that foreign soldiers can wear the wings without serving in a UK airborne unit.
As Nige says, not true. Anyone in 16Bde gets to wear a cherry beret - male, female and probably even the MWDs. You don't have to do P Coy do do jumps - although you do have do do a qualifying course (AACC, SF selection, SPAG, RAF Phys Ed or 2 Sqn selection). Rock apes who've done the course wear a cherry beret without having been anywhere near P Coy.
Lovat grey berets are worn (rarely) by the SRR. The Royal Marines wear Lovat (green) uniforms as an equivalent to No 2 dress. Commando trained personnel wear commando green berets. Qualified 1 Rifles pax and other qualifed Army pax can wear commando green berets when serving with commando-roled units. Qualified RN pax wear their green lids pretty much whenever they like. 1 Rifles did not get an ISO load of green lids from pusser to give out to all and sundry. They sweated for them the same as everyone else.
I didn't think the non-airborne infantry regiment in 16AAB, and the AAC units posted to the brigade, wore maroon berets.
Is that just because 5 SCOTS (Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) and 1 R IRISH don't wear berets normally (the regts wearing a Tam o' shanter or caubeen respectively)?
personnel within 16AAB MAY be issued a maroon beret to wear if they are attached to an airborne unit, for example, a REME machanic, not airborne qualified but attached to 2 Para Reg will be issued a maroon beret. If he were attached to 1 RIR, he will get issued a Caubeen. Attached personnel always get issued the parent unit headress, be it Para. Marines, Guards whatever. Evn had a mate attached to RMP and that poor sod had a Red beret to wear!!
In neither case is he obliged to attempt P Coy, or the Jumps course that follows
going back to the maroon beret thing (same applies to the Royal Marines green beret), any attached soldier (mechanic like I was, cook, PTI, whatever) will be issued the unit head dress and encouraged to take the course (be it either P Coy for the Para reg or AACC for the Royal Marines. Note my wording, encouraged, not obliged. Most choose to at least attempt these course, while some choose not to.
Upon completion of P Coy or AACC, the soldier is then entitled to wear the Wings or Dagger badge on the sleeve of their uniform for evermore. Upon piosting away from the unit, they will cease to wear the maroon or green beret.
Hope that helps
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