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    Default Top Ten Most Powerful Countries

    Which country on the planet has the most powerful armed forces? It's not a matter of numbers, although that's a major factor. It's more a matter of other things that are not often discussed.

    By size (number of troops), the top ten nations looks like this;

    China
    United States
    India
    Korea, North
    Russia
    Korea, South
    Pakistan
    Israel
    Turkey
    Iran

    But anyone who has studied military history knows that the number of troops is a misleading measure. There are several factors that make the troops of one army more effective than others. The most obvious modifying factor is weapons and equipment (quantity and quality). Closely related to this are the “combat support” elements. The most important of these are logistics (being able to move troops, and their supplies, long distances and in a timely manner) and maintenance (keeping things in repair and running under all conditions.) Then there are the intangibles (like leadership, training and the most intangible item of all; military tradition.) Apply all of those to the raw number of troops and you get different number. This number is called "combat power."

    Top Ten By Combat Power

    United States
    China
    Israel
    India
    Russia
    Korea, South
    Korea, North
    United Kingdom
    Turkey
    Pakistan

    The most unusual entry here is Israel. But this is because Israel is one of the few nations to have a reserve army that can be mobilized for action more quickly than most countries can get their active duties into shape for combat. The mobilized Israeli armed forces number over half a million troops. In addition, the Israelis have world class equipment and weapons, as well as exceptional intangibles. The downsize of this is that mobilizing its armed forces also cripples the Israeli economy. Under these conditions, Israel must conduct a war that ends within a few months. After that, supplying the armed forces becomes difficult and actual combat power begins to decline.

    The other nations in the top ten have large armed forces that are well equipped and trained, at least compared to most nations farther down on the list. Britain’s armed forces, like Israel’s, are better equipped, trained and more experienced than most. Turkey benefits from having a strong military tradition and excellent leadership at the small unit level, as well as good combat training.

    Overall, the U.S. combat power is about three times that of second place China, and ten times that of tenth place Pakistan. But another modifying factor is how you plan to use that combat power. Wars are not fought in a vacuum, but in places that often inconvenient places for one side. Most armed forces are optimized for fighting on their own borders; for defending the homeland. Only the United States is capable of quickly moving lots of combat power to anywhere on the planet. Moreover, given a few months, the United States can put enough combat power just about anywhere, and become the major military force in that neighborhood. Countries like Britain and France can move some forces to just about anywhere on the planet. But no one can put forces anywhere quite like the United States.

    For most nations with powerful armed forces, it's mainly a matter of having the most formidable military force in the neighborhood.
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    I would think that the United Kingdom would be closier to the top. Also I thought that South Korea wasn't as strong as North Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayeret
    I would think that the United Kingdom would be closier to the top. Also I thought that South Korea wasn't as strong as North Korea.
    you forgot the link?

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    It's at Strategy Page

    Read it the other day, hence why I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midav
    It's at Strategy Page

    Read it the other day, hence why I know
    thanks

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    Yw.

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    The Rogue Nation of Flagg would be on that list, if it weren't for the lack of a small quantity of weapons grade plutonium.....

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    I really think the UK should be right under israel, which should be right under the US (in the combat power) i dont see hwo india is up there...
    meh.

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    This would be much easier if people just ranked the most powerful nations by the nations with the most 'spendable money' (i.e. the amount of money that can be spent before people in the country can no longer live).

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    The list must be wrong . didnt see Tibet on it

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    or boy I've been reading this topic on Strategy Forum for few month already... it's sooooo silly.

    It's like saying "if whale would fight elephant who would win?"

    I mean, this is just pointless topic without discussing the conflict, means, place, and other stuff... like goals for example.

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    Anyway, in general I think:


    1. USA
    2. Russia
    3. China
    4. Great Britain
    5. France
    6. India
    7. Israel
    8. Pakistan/Iran

    just because they can nuke anyone they want...


    9. Germany
    10. Australia
    11. Turkey

    etc


    In terms of Air Force

    1. USA
    2. Russia
    3. Great Britain
    4. Israel
    5. France
    6. Germany
    7. Belgium
    8. India
    9. China
    10. Australia

    In terms of logistics

    1. USa
    2. the rest of the world

    In terms of military intelligence

    1. Israel
    2. Great Britain
    3. Russia (interchangable with USA)
    4. USA (interchangable with Russia)
    5. France

    In terms of "spy" intelligence

    1. Israel
    2. Russia
    3. USA
    4. Great Britain
    5. China
    6. France
    7. Iran

    In terms of sheer numbers (power)

    1. USA (great weapons + 3rd largest country in the world)
    2. Russia (good weapons + very large country)
    3. China (fair weapons + 1st largest country in the world)
    4. India (good weapons + 2nd largest country in the world)
    5. Israel (citizen-soldier state, 5 million of very motivated individuals)
    5. Great Britain/France (great weapons + large population)

    In terms of military moral/willingness to fight and win

    1. Israel (necessaty for survival)
    2. Great Britain (very patriotic)
    3. Russia (very patriotic)
    4. Ireland (very patriotic)
    5. South Korea/North Korea
    6. USA/Germany
    7. Japan


    I am not saying this list is right.
    I am saying this is what I think of the world's armies strength. Hopefully I am not very far in my calculations.

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    1. Israel (necessaty for survival)
    2. Great Britain (very patriotic)
    3. Russia (very patriotic)
    4. Ireland (very patriotic)
    5. South Korea/North Korea
    6. USA/Germany
    7. Japan
    So much for people accusing Americans are flag-waving patriotic yanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenW
    Anyway, in general I think:


    1. USA
    2. Russia
    3. China
    4. Great Britain
    5. France
    6. India
    7. Israel
    8. Pakistan/Iran

    just because they can nuke anyone they want...


    9. Germany
    10. Australia
    11. Turkey

    etc


    In terms of Air Force

    1. USA
    2. Russia
    3. Great Britain
    4. Israel
    5. France
    6. Germany
    7. Belgium
    8. India
    9. China
    10. Australia

    In terms of logistics

    1. USa
    2. the rest of the world

    In terms of military intelligence

    1. Israel
    2. Great Britain
    3. Russia (interchangable with USA)
    4. USA (interchangable with Russia)
    5. France

    In terms of "spy" intelligence

    1. Israel
    2. Russia
    3. USA
    4. Great Britain
    5. China
    6. France

    In terms of sheer numbers (power)

    1. USA (great weapons + 3rd largest country in the world)
    2. Russia (good weapons + very large country)
    3. China (fair weapons + 1st largest country in the world)
    4. India (good weapons + 2nd largest country in the world)
    5. Israel (citizen-soldier state, 5 million of very motivated individuals)
    5. Great Britain/France (great weapons + large population)

    In terms of military moral/willingness to fight and win

    1. Israel (necessaty for survival)
    2. Great Britain (very patriotic)
    3. Russia (very patriotic)
    4. Ireland (very patriotic)
    5. South Korea/North Korea
    6. USA/Germany
    7. Japan


    I am not saying this list is right.
    I am saying []ithis that what I think of the world's armies strength. Hopefully I am not very far in my calculations.[/i]
    You know...israel has larger Air force from the Uk...in fact israel have the largest Air Force in the Westren world...after USA.

    With are new 101 F-16I.

    BTW: who said we have nukes?

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    BTW: who said we have nukes?
    who? what? why? ... hm ... nobody

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