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    Anynthing on the materials?
    Polymer with steel reinforcements ala g36 oder an extruded aluminum upper?
    It will be interesting to watch this project advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmj View Post
    Anynthing on the materials?
    Aluminium upper receiver, polymer lower.

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    Well here is my question:

    In a day and age when military units are trying to streamline their logistics and save on costs of training are the Polish not going with a more modular design like the SCAR or create a rifle system?

    Why have only right side ejection? Why not make the rifle as ambi as possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentType View Post
    In a day and age when military units are trying to streamline their logistics and save on costs of training are the Polish not going with a more modular design like the SCAR or create a rifle system?
    I do not understand your point. The MSBS-5,56 is the modular design and it is the rifle family.
    Why have only right side ejection? Why not make the rifle as ambi as possible?
    The MSBS-5,56 has got two ejection windows on both sides of the receiver and literally every catch, button or lever is located on both sides. What are you talking about!?




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    The bullpup version does look a bit strange with no handguard to speak of on it.Are those circa 14" configs?

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    They showed first prototypes today.

    Article (only in Polish) here:
    http://www.rp.pl/artykul/406613_Nowe...t_kalaszy.html

    Of course it's typical BS media story but here's a photo:
    http://www.rp.pl/galeria/19417,1,406613.html

    I know that this thing is just a first prototype but Jesus - why didn't they put the side P-rails in the axis of the barrel?
    Also: couldn't they come up with something more than M-16 buttstock?
    These people never learn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony6 View Post
    They showed first prototypes today.

    Article (only in Polish) here:
    http://www.rp.pl/artykul/406613_Nowe...t_kalaszy.html

    Of course it's typical BS media story but here's a photo:
    http://www.rp.pl/galeria/19417,1,406613.html

    I know that this thing is just a first prototype but Jesus - why didn't they put the side P-rails in the axis of the barrel?
    Also: couldn't they come up with something more than M-16 buttstock?
    These people never learn...
    Hi, see the photograpth(s) can you post them ? thanks and thanks for posting the piece.

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    Sorry - meant to say can't see the photograph ! can you post

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJB View Post
    Sorry - meant to say can't see the photograph ! can you post



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    i sure hope the furniture is only a coverup for the real deal, cuz it looks like sh*t

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    Remov , thanks for posting the Pics.

    Whats the development plan going forward ?

    What changes do you expect to the designs ?

    thanks

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    Its a ****ing prototype. Its not meant to be pretty. Jesus people. Go back to the airsoft forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarak View Post
    Its a ****ing prototype. Its not meant to be pretty. Jesus people. Go back to the airsoft forum.
    stop copying me!


    ever seen car test mules? *hint hint*

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    Quote Originally Posted by REMOV View Post



    can i ask a simple question remov?

    Hows the cheek weld on the bullpup?

    Cuz in the normal config , the cheek weld is an easy part swap, but not on most bullpups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJB View Post
    Whats the development plan going forward?
    The research & development programme called MSBS-5,56 (Modulowy System Broni Strzeleckiej kalibru 5,56 mm - Modular Firearms System of 5.56 mm calibre) will be finished in the December 2010. In the meantime the Polish MoD will have to decide which design is better suitable to the Army - classic one or bullpup. Next step for the future manufacturer (Fabryka Broni Lucznik-Radom) is to create the whole assault rifle family based on the standard model - carbine, light automatic/sniper rifle. It will takes, with all factory and military tests, about three years (2011-2013). So, if the MoD will be interested in the new, modular assault rifle family, the new firearm can be introduced to the Polish Army around 2015-2016.
    What changes do you expect to the designs?
    Hmm... it is a difficult question. In my opinion it is too early to discuss this issue. For now only a few preprototypes of the basic assault rifle exists, and now their mechanical features should be carefully examined. The next step is to make some functional and ergonomical changes, but after all internal parts working without any problem. Naturally everything is strongly connected with future MoD decision.

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