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    ^^ How many Rounds that Grenade launcher ( Just below the Bullpup one ) can hold, Can any one Identify it ?

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    It's RGA-86. Drum holds 15 rounds.

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    I do not know whether this will be the bread ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by van_pomidor45 View Post
    I do not know whether this will be the bread ...
    huh?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunal Biswas View Post
    ^^ How many Rounds that Grenade launcher ( Just below the Bullpup one ) can hold, Can any one Identify it ?

    Thanks In Advance..
    There is one very interesting police... well, not "weapon" but "law enforcement device" - SZO-84, net-shooting ""Spider-gun" left to the RGA-86.

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    So which version is the army leanin towards the bull up or the regular design?

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    wait for the official tender to be announced. so far, the army has nothing to do with the project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~~~~ View Post
    the army has nothing to do with the project.
    Ummm... what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwjs View Post
    Ummm... what?
    It's very simple Polish Defence Industry wants to add to its portfolio some new toys. That's all for now. The Polish Armed Forces haven't ordered it yet, but there is a good chance that they will buy it in the 'near' future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyUS View Post
    So which version is the army leanin towards the bull up or the regular design?
    The former chief of Polish Land Forces, general Buk, who died in the Polish Force One crash at Smolensk, was supported the bullpup design as the standard one for Polish Army. But after his death, his successors both in Land Forces Command and Mechanized and Armored Forces Command (the actual buyer of new equipment) do not answer that question. There is even some ideas from Warsaw's Military Institute of Technology side, co-designer of the MSBS-5,56, that the Polish army should adapt both version - the classic design as direct replacement of Beryl assault rifle, and bullpup one as successor of the Mini Beryl carbine and PM-84P/MP-98 submachine gun. The most important now is to start a second stage of R&D procedure and combine the proven action from technology demonstrator and the new shape to create models and than prototypes.

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    Some photos from Altair:

    Comparison between bullpup versions (from top 1st mockup, 2nd, and 3rd)
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    Comparison between classic layout versions (same order)

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    Photos by Jacek Kijewski and Grzegorz Hołdanowicz
    Source: http://www.altair.com.pl/

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    Quote Originally Posted by REMOV View Post
    The former chief of Polish Land Forces, general Buk, who died in the Polish Force One crash at Smolensk, was supported the bullpup design as the standard one for Polish Army. But after his death, his successors both in Land Forces Command and Mechanized and Armored Forces Command (the actual buyer of new equipment) do not answer that question. There is even some ideas from Warsaw's Military Institute of Technology side, co-designer of the MSBS-5,56, that the Polish army should adapt both version - the classic design as direct replacement of Beryl assault rifle, and bullpup one as successor of the Mini Beryl carbine and PM-84P/MP-98 submachine gun. The most important now is to start a second stage of R&D procedure and combine the proven action from technology demonstrator and the new shape to create models and than prototypes.
    Thanks for the explanation. I think adopting both versions sounds like a sound idea.

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    here with the UGL

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