MSBS 5,56 - new Polish assault rifle prototype

[pretorian669]

New Polish 40 mm (40 mm x 46SR) grenade launcher designed for MSBS-5,56

Hi Remov. What's the barrel lenght on that UBGL?

[REMOV]

It is still under consideration, but roughly between 210-250 mm.

[SURVICE]

http://www.altair.com.pl/start-5408

Here you can check new granade launcher dedicate for MSBS 5,56

p.s.sorry only Polish

[REMOV]

I think you are a bit late, pal

[Kondor220V]

Why is the trigger so far to the front? They could move it back and remove that angled grip to be more low profile IMO.

[Lasse]

BULLPUP GL!!!1!

Looks like there are quite a few Magpul fanboys in Poland

[SURVICE]

Lepiej późno niż wcale

Better late than never

[REMOV]

Would be nice if they just go with the 6.5mm or 6.8mm round.

No chance at all, those cartridges are dead end, the NATO do not introduced them (I spoken about the issue with the NATO Group representatives), last but not least their characteristics are not better than new 5,56 mm round M855A1. But there are some information from the designers that will be introduced semi-automatic, sniper model of the MSBS-5,56 in the 7,62 mm x 51 calibre.

[REMOV]

Why is the trigger so far to the front?

Do you have any experience with triangle-shaped front grip?

They could move it back and remove that angled grip to be more low profile IMO.

The designers idea was from very beginning just quite opposite to your opinion. And the grenade launcher has in fact very low profile

[Catch22]

Why is the trigger so far to the front? They could move it back and remove that angled grip to be more low profile IMO.

Once you try it, you'll understand. Using Magpul's AFG might give you idea though. Its much more natural and comfortable than both M203 and AG36/M320 layouts.

And Lasse - honestly we're not "fanboys" of anything, AFG was very interesting proposition with some ergonomics theory behind it, after having tested it - it suddenly appeared to my colleague as a possible solution for the UBGL that would match MSBS platform well enough in classic and b-p versions.

[gafkiwi]

Yeah, I think its a good step forward, what with the current trend of underslung grenade launchers getting larger, its good to see a "Low profile" launcher introduced.

[Lasse]

And Lasse - honestly we're not "fanboys" of anything, AFG was very interesting proposition with some ergonomics theory behind it, after having tested it - it suddenly appeared to my colleague as a possible solution for the UBGL that would match MSBS platform well enough in classic and b-p versions.

I use and love the AFG myself

[tony6]

At least it doesn't look so god damn edgy and stocky like GBPO-40 (or whatever they call this thing).

[kraftwerk]

I like this GLA ergonomy.
It looks like it's attached to receiver not using receiver's Picatinny rails. It means, that standard version of the rifle will have side and bottom rails removable in some way. That could cause some logistic issues (you can not just snap GLA on your rifle in the field - you have to remove some elements first and stow it somewhere too...).
GLA's receiver looks on this picture as pretty tricky extrusion...

[Majster]

I like this GLA ergonomy.
It looks like it's attached to receiver not using receiver's Picatinny rails. It means, that standard version of the rifle will have side and bottom rails removable in some way. That could cause some logistic issues (you can not just snap GLA on your rifle in the field - you have to remove some elements first and stow it somewhere too...).
GLA's receiver looks on this picture as pretty tricky extrusion...

Ok, ok call me a dumbass if I'm wrong. But to me it looks like UGL uses bottom Picatinny rail. I don't see any elements that would have to be removed before mounting UGL.