MSBS 5,56 - new Polish assault rifle prototype

[REMOV]

Done. I additionally compared it against the list of recent G36 users.

Congratulations, and...?

[Amethystfretchen]

Can't see proof of your claim about "top bestseller assault rifle".

[REMOV]

Simple, check how many countries army bought this assault rifles in last 5 years. If you compared it you already know the answer

[Indiana Jones]

Simple, check how many countries army bought this assault rifles in last 5 years. If you compared it you already know the answer

Remov,
where are the mag release, bolt catch etc. located ? Can't identify them in the pictures. Does the magazine fall free ? Any decision on the optics?
Thanks in advance,
IJ.

[SilentType]

I love that our Newest members of NATO are now working on new rifle designs. It means more competition and that's awesome, because that pushes design progress.

[SilentType]

I am afraid I cannot agree with your ekhm... "analysis", based on your reflections not on informations from the real world. First, the idea of bullpup rifles comes from 1900s, not 1950s, second the introduction of bullpups to the world armies are 1980s, not 1970s, third the "almost totally abandoned by major gun designers" thing is completly false.

Today top bestseller assault rifle is Israeli Tavor TAR-21 in bullpup design (check the list of recent users), the bullpups are produced by major firearms manufacturers like FN (F2000) or Steyr-Mannlicher (AUG, which is ancestor of all modern modular designs with exchangeable barrels).

The latest reports from Afghanistan shows clearly that the army using the 5,56 mm assault rifles in such mountain/desert enviroment wanted the longest barrel available with the shorter overall length possible (or the different intermediate ammunition, which is rather impossible), the feature that only bullpups can achieve.

Agree. Bullpup is tailor made for the fight in Afghanistan. You couldn't ask for a better platform really. Easier to carry and move in the rough terrain with a long enough barrel to give you proper velocity for fragmentation with the 5.56x45mm round. The rifles with 14.5" barrels just aren't going to give rounds the right velocity and hence don't provide enough velocity at targets at intermediate distances. Plus, in Afghanistan you can be making shots up and down mountains and across farm fields one minute and be in urban operations the next. Ask the Marines how easy it is to weild a long barreled rifle in tight quarters.

Smaller overall size to the rifles also has a logistical advantage, because that's less space the rifle needs to take up for transport.

[Catch22]

Remov,
where are the mag release, bolt catch etc. located ? Can't identify them in the pictures. Does the magazine fall free ? Any decision on the optics?
Thanks in advance,
IJ.

Since R. hasn't taken this up - I'll do so.



The current setup will be probably changed due to unfortunate bolt catch release placement.

And for the reference:

[3rdMillhouse]

I don't think anyone is considering the bullpup layout these days, it's a residual concept from the 50s that achieved great popularity in the 70s and is now almost totally abandoned by the major gun designers.

Best joke EVER.

[tony6]

Catch22:
Is this M-16-style buttstock a temporary solution?
Do they plan anything more sophisticated than that?

[Catch22]

It is temporary. The final versions should be quite diffrent in external design and controls placement. The current versions are more like test platforms for the internal mechanics, so hopefully we shouldn't sweat over how they look on the outside. Think ACR and X95 as a reference points for the development versions.

[tony6]

ACR? Hope you're right.

[zapatero]

I wonder when we will see this thing operational.

[tony6]

What's the lower receiver's material?
Looks like a plastic on the photo. Or is it aluminum-based alloy?

[Catch22]

Plastic....

[tony6]

Short interview with one of the designers showing first shooting prototypes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Muo...layer_embedded

He says they are going to introduce the final version in 2012.