Reply With QuoteThen my advice counts. The stock-sacks for mags are a pain in the ass at best and a danger at worst.
You forgot the Swedish Ak5, FN FNC doesnt count
And he's Dutch, they carry the same rifles you guys (Canadians) do
Then my advice counts. The stock-sacks for mags are a pain in the ass at best and a danger at worst.
Agreed. Theres nothing more painful then watching some knob fresh off of KAF try to ready his C7A2 with a Magpouch on his stock, and failing miserabley.Originally Posted by Canadian Sig
The only practical application I saw was our tank crews fixing the pouches to the front handguards; since they weren't wearing thier Tac vests in the turret at least they had 60 rounds for their carbines rather than 30.
He could always just double-mag it. It might be too wide, but I dont know the room you have to work with. Honestly, just talk with the other drivers you are going over with, especially ones who have already been over. They know your vehicles, your weapons, and the equipment easily available to you.
Try this one, a webshop located in Assen.
http://www.vikingmilitarygear.com/
Just my thoughts...if you don't know what you want, wait until you have spent a month or so in country, then go off and spend your hard earned money on what you need. I generally prefer Tactical Tailor or Diamondback, but thats just my opinion (an affection for TT comes with being stationed in Ft Lewis, its automatic). Ive found that when soldiers buy a bunch of stuff shortly before deployment, they end up wasting half their money. Soldiers who buy stuff while in country usually do a bit better.
we had people in my platoon come to iraq with chest rigs and vests, 90% of them don't use them anymore, it's way more convenient to just put the pouches straight on the iotv. but if your armored, like in a tank, i can't really relate, closest i get to being mounted is being in my humvee on the way to falafel stand. personally i think the best solution would be to have somebody walk along with me and carry all my ammo and crap, but that ain't going to happen. but maybe your situation is different, last deployment i had the old IBA and i wore a tactical tailor 1 piece chest rig and it worked fine for one reason, the snapping loops on the shoulders.
A lot on nations dont have body armour that has Molle attachments. For them (like Canada) a seperate load bearing system is a must.
The Dutch however have a vest with lots of molle loops. That is, if you get it issued because a lot of guys get the older vest that was designed for alice clips..
Most Dutch guys like to wear the vest over a t-shirt, then put on a smock jacket and on top of that a chest-rig or vest.. UBACS and other under bodyarmour shirts are still a bit unknown so it seems..
I have seen a nice Chestrig from Tasmanian Tiger somewhere..
also in Tan and OD.
Or check www.uktactical.com
Well,, Maybe type of Stock pouch is the problem.
I carried an M4, Usually I has a Specops brand stock Pouch attached.
http://www.specopsbrand.com/ProductD...sp?ProductID=7#
Not the M4 "T-Bone" but the regular plain M16 version attached horizantally
Funnily enough, I never had an issue with it on patrols, either mounted or dismounted. However I can see where some other style might not allow the charging handle to be retracted properly if the stock if telescoped all the way inwards. Until I left I wound up using a T.A.G. Pouch with no issues either.
When I relief drove I wore My RACK chest rig, or took it off for better clearance with a Bandoleer within grabbing distance.
At one time, supply got us some of these for the drivers:
http://www.specopsbrand.com/ProductD...p?ProductID=32
and there are Lower profile versions out there. Eagle Industries makes one that hold 4 Mags.
Looks like a interesting rig. Are there any other companys that make one similiar to it?The Dutch however have a vest with lots of molle loops. That is, if you get it issued because a lot of guys get the older vest that was designed for alice clips..
Most Dutch guys like to wear the vest over a t-shirt, then put on a smock jacket and on top of that a chest-rig or vest.. UBACS and other under bodyarmour shirts are still a bit unknown so it seems..
I have seen a nice Chestrig from Tasmanian Tiger somewhere..
also in Tan and OD.
Or check www.uktactical.com
The price is right. I don't like where they make their stuff (Vietnam) and some people have voiced problems with the gear but I've never had a problem. DBT, Eagle, etc etc are better but I just think this is a good deal if money is an issue.
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Che...ches,852,2.htm
Heres the specs on the blackhawk battle bag. We found them good for warrior crews in MQ.
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Bat...g,872,1394.htm
High Speed Gear Inc. (HSGI) makes a plate carrier close to this. It is the Weesatch/Wasatch/Woosatch line. Internal mag pouches and plenty of molle real estate (especially when combined with the side plate carrier adapter kit).
Weesatch is The smallest carrying 6 mags, Wasatch carrying 8, and woosatch carrying ten, I BELIEVE. I used the Wasatch coupled with the side plate carrier adapter kit over top of my body armor on my last deployment. No problems, very adjustable to the wearer.
As for the butt stock mag pouch: the charging handle issue would be a great concern for me too. I carried my mag in the same manner, but instead of a pouch used a small diameter, 1 inch thick black rubber band that held the mag very secure. I just removed the buttstock and slid the band over the tubular portion of it. You can buy these bands under the name STRAC BANDS from Brigade Quartermaster.
As I left the wire, I pulled that mag and locked and loaded, leaving the rubberband around my buttstock. No prob.
Anybody know if the old ten-pouch SKS rigs will hold 20rnd AR mags?
Thought I might get one just for sh*ts-and-giggles at the range.
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