Reply With Quotehttp://balagan.org.uk/war/ai/1982.htmOriginally Posted by Fisker
Chapiter especially for you :
"Who fought who and when"
Good read.
Best regards.
I hate to be an arse but James is right...everyone at some point collaborated or fought eachother. The sole clear outline is that Syria fought Israel... and the PLO; all the rest was Döner meat...Ok, a loooong outline, then...
http://balagan.org.uk/war/ai/1982.htm
Chapiter especially for you :
"Who fought who and when"
Good read.
Best regards.
Thank you very much.
Total chaos!
It must have been quite confusing fighting that war, it seems everybody fought everybody at some point and were allies at some other point.
I´ve decided to buy a book or two on the subject, that might be a good idea.
Centaur
Not to be rude, but the Lebanese would not be using 1950's vintage steel tracks in 1984without rubber chevrons!! this again is a USMC M-48a1,
Thanks buddy!
Mrosko
Not to be to rude!
Hey Centaur
Show me any other image of a Lebanese M-48a1 in use in 1984? M-48a5 no problem.
Thanks again and note to be too rude for asking.
All the best.
Mrosko
Sorry to disappoint you again but the identification number on the mudguard is in Arabic. This number is 512358 and it’s the typical ID number of a Lebanese Army vehicle. I highly doubt seeing a USMC tank with Arabic number. As for the tracks, which are the type usually found on M47s, their origin is the same as the M48A1s themselves, Jordan. Knowing that Jordan had M47s as well, it’s logical to think that they handled the LAF such kind of tracks as spare parts or to assume that some M48A1s had T80E1 tracks as on the picture. Another clue that shows that the photo was taken in the 80s and not in the 50s are the containers in the middle of the street we see in the background. Such containers were used as protection blocks all along the green line which separated East Beirut from West Beirut. Such line never existed in 1958 during the American intervention.
In the Lebanese civil war you have to expect to see any kind of vehicle or weapon, some really rare jewels can be found.
I do have pictures of M48A1s in 1984 but unfortunately I am not allowed to show them yet. And if you need to see more M48A1s, I suggest you get Samer Kassis’ book “30 years of military vehicles in Lebanon”.
It never killed anybody to make mistakes. Everybody make mistakes including me, and it helps letting knowledge grow.
Cheers
Last edited by centaur815; 06-13-2009 at 02:38 AM. Reason: Typo
here are the tanks being delivered in 1983 to Lebanon
Many thanks z973. As we can also see those pics in Samer's book more clearly. All M48A1s are equipped with T80E1 tracks.
Some Pictures that i would like to share with you!
Lebanese-Forces.
Cheikh Bachir Gemayel!
Some more LF pictures:
Cheikh Bachir Gemayel!
Shermans?
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