Thread: Georgian Army, Navy and Air Force

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    Hillary softening on arms sales to Georgia?
    October 6, 2010 by Joshua Kucera
    The Bug Pit Georgia U.S.
    Some top Georgian officials are in Washington today to meet under the auspices of the formal strategic partnership they agreed last year. And if the opening remarks by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Georgian Prime Minister Nikoloz Gilauri are anything to go by, the U.S. could be softening on the question of the U.S. arming Georgia.

    The United States remains committed to Georgia’s aspirations for membership in NATO, as reflected in the Alliance’s decisions in Bucharest and Strasbourg-Kehl. We strongly support Georgia’s efforts related to its Annual National Program, which promotes defense reform and guides cooperation with NATO. And we continue to support Georgia’s efforts on defense reform and improving defense capabilities, including NATO interoperability and Georgia’s contributions to ISAF operations in Afghanistan.

    (Emphasis added) Of course, that's a pretty subtle statement, but it does seem to stand out recently from other administration officials saying Georgia is "not ready" for new weapons.

    And, according to the strategic partnership agreement, the Georgians do have a point. In the text of the charter, equipping the Georgian military is explicitly mentioned:

    1. Working within the framework of the NATO-Georgia Commission, the United States and Georgia intend to pursue a structured plan to increase interoperability and coordination of capabilities between NATO and Georgia, including via enhanced training and equipment for Georgian forces.

    So look out for possible policy changes after these meetings...
    http://www.eurasianet.org/node/62099

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralL View Post
    It was an inofficial deal between the three Serbian small arms factories and Georgian officials. The argreements are claimed to have been cancelled shortly after the war in 2008, but there are not enough informations. I guess it makes some hundreds if not min. 2000 rifles since start of the agreement.
    That many? What kind of rifles?

    And another question:

    Are these Zastava CZ-99/CZ-999 pistols or SIG pistols?

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...1&d=1286584073

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvari90 View Post
    i call bs, they are shooting at nothing specific, taking minimal cover, and not being shot at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MareCar View Post
    That many? What kind of rifles?

    And another question:

    Are these Zastava CZ-99/CZ-999 pistols or SIG pistols?

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...1&d=1286584073
    Mainly Zastava M93s and some pre-post war sniper rifles, mainly based on the AK-47.

    It are P226 pistols.

    Quote Originally Posted by Extobulite View Post
    i call bs, they are shooting at nothing specific, taking minimal cover, and not being shot at.
    This was a police operation back in 2006. They were looking for Emzar Kvitsiani and his guerilla unit. There were not much of confrontations at all. One civilian died after he got in the crossfire of both parties. Kvitsiani fled while his men were captured or surrendered.

    I wonder how many Galil SAR smgs were bought.
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    good job general! nice pics! thanks..

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    Can somebody told me which source about the Georgian military equipment is more realistic? The Russian Wikipedia or the Englisch/American?

    Russian
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%...B7%D0%B8%D0%B8

    English/American
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar..._Georgian_Army

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    Quote Originally Posted by Free Georgia from Russian View Post
    Can somebody told me which source about the Georgian military equipment is more realistic? The Russian Wikipedia or the Englisch/American?

    Russian
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%...B7%D0%B8%D0%B8

    English/American
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar..._Georgian_Army
    I don't know why the Russians have decimated the Georgian Army .... in their opinion , but fact is that the numbers "taken" from IISS are wrong because someone just edited them in wiki.

    The english version is pretty much matching. The only thing I do not agree on, is the number of Humvees. Should be more than 70

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralL View Post
    I don't know why the Russians have decimated the Georgian Army .... in their opinion , but fact is that the numbers "taken" from IISS are wrong because someone just edited them in wiki.

    The english version is pretty much matching. The only thing I do not agree on, is the number of Humvees. Should be more than 70
    Thanks General I was confused because IISS as source sounds plausible for me. But I think and hope you are right

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralL View Post
    I don't know why the Russians have decimated the Georgian Army .... in their opinion , but fact is that the numbers "taken" from IISS are wrong because someone just edited them in wiki.

    The english version is pretty much matching. The only thing I do not agree on, is the number of Humvees. Should be more than 70
    No General, the numbers taken from IISS military Balance are not edited. I had the same problem, when in the 2009 edition of Military Balance - the number of T-72s was 37. Which is obviously not true. IISS needs to update its data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgian Warrior View Post
    No General, the numbers taken from IISS military Balance are not edited. I had the same problem, when in the 2009 edition of Military Balance - the number of T-72s was 37. Which is obviously not true. IISS needs to update its data.
    Its completly biased and a very nonserious source then.



    Here's an incomplete unit table of the Georgian Land Forces:
    • Army HQ, Land Forces Command (Tbilisi)
    • 1st Infantry Brigade (Gori)
    • 2nd Infantry Brigade (Senaki)
      • 21st Light Infantry Battalion
      • 22nd Light Infantry Battalion
      • 23rd Light Infantry Battalion
      • 24th Armoured Battalion
    • 3rd Infantry Brigade (Kutaisi)
      • 31st Light Infantry Battalion[16]
      • 32nd Light Infantry Battalion
      • 33rd Light Infantry Battalion
    • 4th Infantry Brigade (Vaziani)
      • 41st Light Infantry Battalion
      • 42nd Light Infantry Battalion
      • 43rd Light Infantry Battalion
    • 5th Infantry Brigade (Khelvachauri and Khoni)
    • 1st Artillery Brigade (Vaziani)[17]
    • 2nd Artillery Brigade (Khoni)
    • Army HQ, Special Operations Main Division (Tbilisi)
      • Special Forces Brigade
        • 14th Airborne Battalion
      • Commando Battalion
      • 'Shachkere' Mountain Combat Division
    • Separate Tank Battalion (Mukhrovani)
    • Separate 1st Anti-Tank Battalion
    • Separate 2nd Anti-Tank Battalion
    • Separate Light Infantry Battalion (Adlia)
    • Engineer Battalion
    • Air-Defense Battalion (Kutaisi)
    • Signal Battalion (Saguramo)
    • Technical Reconnaissance Battalion (Kobuleti)
    • Medical Battalion (Saguramo)


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    • Brigade Armoured Battalion
    • Brigade Anti-Tank Battalion
    • Brigade Logistics Battalion
    • Brigade Intelligence Company
    • Brigade Communications Company
    • Brigade Artillery Divisions
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_Armed_Forces

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    [QUOTE=GeneralL;5243064]Its completly biased and a very nonserious source then.



    Here's an incomplete unit table of the Georgian Land Forces:
    [*] Separate Tank Battalion (Mukhrovani)


    This Battalion does not exist for over 2 years now. Wikipedia sucks at details as usual.

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    [QUOTE=Georgian Warrior;5243331]
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralL View Post
    Its completly biased and a very nonserious source then.



    Here's an incomplete unit table of the Georgian Land Forces:
    [*] Separate Tank Battalion (Mukhrovani)


    This Battalion does not exist for over 2 years now. Wikipedia sucks at details as usual.
    Yep, only the Brigades have armoured Battalions

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