Thread: Georgian Army, Navy and Air Force

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karaahmetoglu View Post
    Nope, you can have both. I want one, because I should get it while I still can.
    I don't know where you are getting your intel from, but as far as I know Dual citizenship is only granted after personally requesting the President (Saakashvili) himself and only to those Georgians, who have left the country and have acquired other countries' citizenship and would also want to remain citizens of Georgia.

    You cannot get a Georgian citizenship, if you were not born in Georgia and are living outside of Georgia. It is a different story if you move to Georgia and after living there for a while you could acquire Georgian citizenship, after giving up your current one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgian Warrior View Post
    I don't know where you are getting your intel from, but as far as I know Dual citizenship is only granted after personally requesting the President (Saakashvili) himself and only to those Georgians, who have left the country and have acquired other countries' citizenship and would also want to remain citizens of Georgia.

    You cannot get a Georgian citizenship, if you were not born in Georgia and are living outside of Georgia. It is a different story if you move to Georgia and after living there for a while you could acquire Georgian citizenship, after giving up your current one.

    Dual citizenship is a new practice for Georgia. The initiative, proposed by President Saakashvili was intended to encourage ethnic Georgians living abroad to return home.
    http://www.geotimes.ge/index.php?m=home&newsid=9841

    I know people who did it, I just cannot find them to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karaahmetoglu View Post
    http://www.geotimes.ge/index.php?m=home&newsid=9841

    I know people who did it, I just cannot find them to ask.
    "Dual citizenship is a new practice for Georgia. The initiative, proposed by President Saakashvili was intended to encourage ethnic Georgians living abroad to return home.

    Georgian citizenship is sometimes granted to people who are not ethnically Georgians but had once lived on Georgia territory for a long time. Many left country for various reasons, and now want to return to live in Georgia.

    The Georgian Constitution states that applicants are granted Georgian citizenship based on two main criteria: applicant should make a contribution to the country (Georgia); or, granting Georgian citizenship to the foreigner should be in Georgia’s national interests.

    Under this you do not qualify, because you are neither ethnic Georgian, who left the country and wants to return, nor are you a person who lived in Georgia for a long period of time and can contribute to the country, or it would be in Georgia's national interests to grant you citizenship.

    However you can qualify if you are one of the two categories distinguished by Sanadaze: "Sanadze distinguishes between two categories of Turks. Turkish-Meskhs, who rarely submit applications and Turks exiled from the Adjara Region (Georgia) long ago". But they have to give up their original citizenship, and actually settle in Georgia.

    Nevertheless even if you are one of them, I am categorically against the repatriation of Turkish-Meskhs or Adjarian Muslims, so I would not help you anyway, nothing personal, I am just serving interests of my country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgian Warrior View Post
    "Dual citizenship is a new practice for Georgia. The initiative, proposed by President Saakashvili was intended to encourage ethnic Georgians living abroad to return home.

    Georgian citizenship is sometimes granted to people who are not ethnically Georgians but had once lived on Georgia territory for a long time. Many left country for various reasons, and now want to return to live in Georgia.

    The Georgian Constitution states that applicants are granted Georgian citizenship based on two main criteria: applicant should make a contribution to the country (Georgia); or, granting Georgian citizenship to the foreigner should be in Georgia’s national interests.

    Under this you do not qualify, because you are neither ethnic Georgian, who left the country and wants to return, nor are you a person who lived in Georgia for a long period of time and can contribute to the country, or it would be in Georgia's national interests to grant you citizenship.

    However you can qualify if you are one of the two categories distinguished by Sanadaze: "Sanadze distinguishes between two categories of Turks. Turkish-Meskhs, who rarely submit applications and Turks exiled from the Adjara Region (Georgia) long ago". But they have to give up their original citizenship, and actually settle in Georgia.

    Nevertheless even if you are one of them, I am categorically against the repatriation of Turkish-Meskhs or Adjarian Muslims, so I would not help you anyway, nothing personal, I am just serving interests of my country.
    Easy man .... show tolerance. Forgot it allready ? You are Georgian, .... not someone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralL View Post
    Easy man .... show tolerance. Forgot it allready ? You are Georgian, .... not someone else
    That ill-conceived (avadmyopuri) tolerance you are talking about, is what got us into the Asshole, we are now. Oow poor Ossetians, let them in, we are so tolerant, oow poor Armenians let them in, we are so bloody tolerant. But when it comes to tolerating each other, we massacre Georgians on the Rustaveli Avenue (and I don't mean just last week, I mean for past 22 years)

    So please, no more tolerance towards our enemies (atasi juris dzaglisshvilebis) and more compassion towards each other.

    A Turkish citizen (or Armenian, Azeri or other neighboring countries for that matter) who never lived in Georgia, or has any ties with it, and wants to become a citizen is nothing but a threat to our national security and I am sticking to my point.

    Georgian used is only a translation of given words, so please don't ban me for that.

    We are going waaay off topic, so end of discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgian Warrior View Post
    That ill-conceived (avadmyopuri) tolerance you are talking about, is what got us into the Asshole, we are now. Oow poor Ossetians, let them in, we are so tolerant, oow poor Armenians let them in, we are so bloody tolerant. But when it comes to tolerating each other, we massacre Georgians on the Rustaveli Avenue (and I don't mean just last week, I mean for past 22 years)

    So please, no more tolerance towards our enemies (atasi juris dzaglisshvilebis) and more compassion towards each other.

    A Turkish citizen (or Armenian, Azeri or other neighboring countries for that matter) who never lived in Georgia, or has any ties with it, and wants to become a citizen is nothing but a threat to our national security and I am sticking to my point.

    Georgian used is only a translation of given words, so please don't ban me for that.

    We are going waaay off topic, so end of discussion.
    Sorry but I can't accept such an end of this discussion.

    You claim that people who want foreign citizenship are all threats to a nation. Of course everyone who wants to settle up is a potential threat, you don't know their intentions at all, but then every nation on this earth is endangered to be ripped apart by "foreigners", like the US, Germany, France, UK, Russia etc. Is that a reason to reject everyone in such ill manner ? Declaring all our neighbours as enemies maybe your imagination of the world, but you do not speak for the Republic of Georgia. Sorry, this is definitly not representative, but rather insulting and reminding of a state of mad ethnicities-based ideology. I agree, we lost territories to anyone over and over again, many ethnicities in Georgia revolted or settled fire, but it still is not a ****ing reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralL View Post
    Sorry but I can't accept such an end of this discussion.

    You claim that people who want foreign citizenship are all threats to a nation. Of course everyone who wants to settle up is a potential threat, you don't know their intentions at all, but then every nation on this earth is endangered to be ripped apart by "foreigners", like the US, Germany, France, UK, Russia etc. Is that a reason to reject everyone in such ill manner ? Declaring all our neighbours as enemies maybe your imagination of the world, but you do not speak for the Republic of Georgia. Sorry, this is definitly not representative, but rather insulting.
    Good post. cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralL View Post
    Sorry but I can't accept such an end of this discussion.

    1) You claim that people who want foreign citizenship are all threats to a nation. Of course everyone who wants to settle up is a potential threat, you don't know their intentions at all, but then every nation on this earth is endangered to be ripped apart by "foreigners", like the 2) US, Germany, France, UK, Russia etc. Is that a reason to reject everyone in such ill manner ? 3) Declaring all our neighbours as enemies maybe your imagination of the world, but you do not speak for the Republic of Georgia. Sorry, this is definitly not representative, but rather insulting and reminding of a state of mad ethnicities-based ideology. I agree, we lost territories to anyone over and over again, many ethnicities in Georgia revolted or settled fire, but it still is not a ****ing reason.
    1) That is not what I said, do not generalize please.
    2) To hell with them, all I care is Georgia.
    3) That is also not what I said, so please do not misinterpret my words. (Turkish State is our friend, but Turks trying to settle in Adjaria are a threat to our national security)
    But note that my position is still pretty close to our Government's policy. The current laws on granting Georgian Citizenship is in line with what I just said above, and that is why Karaahmetoglu will never get it

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    First of all I am ethnic Georgian. Second of all I do not represent the interests of Georgia eh? Well you could have told our family this before we sent Petrol and financial aid during the wars.

    "Karaahmetoglu will never get it "

    Luckly, that is not up for you to decide. Furthermore, thanks but no thanks, I found the place.


    And no I am not an enemy of Georgia, because I was born in Turkey. To be rather frank GeorgianWarrior, it is people like you who by declaring all foreign people as enemies the ones who do not represent the interests of Georgia.


    We should really return to topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralL View Post
    Sorry but I can't accept such an end of this discussion.

    You claim that people who want foreign citizenship are all threats to a nation. Of course everyone who wants to settle up is a potential threat, you don't know their intentions at all, but then every nation on this earth is endangered to be ripped apart by "foreigners", like the US, Germany, France, UK, Russia etc. Is that a reason to reject everyone in such ill manner ? Declaring all our neighbours as enemies maybe your imagination of the world, but you do not speak for the Republic of Georgia. Sorry, this is definitly not representative, but rather insulting and reminding of a state of mad ethnicities-based ideology. I agree, we lost territories to anyone over and over again, many ethnicities in Georgia revolted or settled fire, but it still is not a ****ing reason.
    Good comment

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jEnwU1y2Jg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Free Georgia from Russian View Post
    Lol most of the Airdefence is not ours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgian Warrior View Post
    Lol most of the Airdefence is not ours
    Who cares, now we have the Didgori :P

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    Can you mark which air defense is not ours ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgian Hind View Post
    Can you mark which air defense is not ours ?
    None of the Buks and Shilkas are ours, nor is Spyder on Tetra truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generall View Post
    who cares, now we have the didgori
    good old sarcasm

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