Reply With QuoteThey are still in service of course.Originally Posted by thanamestolga
Whatever happened to your Cobras?Ever since the Didgori showed up I haven't seen many pics of em
Whatever happened to your Cobras?
They are still in service of course.Whatever happened to your Cobras?
Well, when I said RPG-7 is old, I meant the old warheads, you know the standard HEAT ones. If we can produce more modern warheads like Tandems and Thermobarics then I will support RPG-7 all the way.Removed turret is a different variant and shall be counted as seperate one as it is the rule. It is the very same with any other vehicle like for example Humvees or Cobras, unless they simply removed the "turret" from allready constructed vehicles. Also, keep in mind that we have absolutly no insight into what TAM is actualy constructing, including a new APC ( saw raw material ).
Dude you have wishes
But anyhow, the criteria of mass production is fullfilled. The quality is a different question.
The Lazika has most likely it's strongest armour to the front and slightly underneath ( Stanag 4 ), while the rear is allmost unprotected ( Stanag 1 ) and the flanks are medium protected ( Stanag 2+ ) and not like it is beeing claimed to have allround Level 4 protection. That is simply bull****, considering how small it is and I doubt that TAM has developed Alien like armour technology. I didn't believe those infos provided by MOD, allready when I saw that tiny thing the first time. S
People may not like me for this, but the BMP-2 base variant is simply a driving coffin compared to modern APC's. The BMP-2 base variant has much inferior armour than the Lazika base variant which is equipped with long range finders, thermal imaging, night vision and advanced communication systems. If the Lazika base variant had a 2a42 30mm and some Konkurs missiles installed, it would be definitly one of the deadliest IFV's. Yet apart of that all, Lazika lacks on other defensive barriers, like active defense. If you ask me, the "yet not as completly developed Lazika" got a sad faith as beeing exposed way too early to the public. Trust me, they will make a lot more out of it. This was just a show-off for Saakasvhili's media clown party.
I know what you want. Better to copy and paste the BMP-2, but with the same electronics like Lazika has and upgraded with advanced composite armour and weapon platform. That would be a good start. But can you imagine the giant amount of money you would need to do that .... ? 100 BMP-2s updated like that ? That's no joke to deal with dude. Poland has allready massive financial problems to upgrade half of their IFV's. But even then, the Lazika would still do a better job, when beeing finished with developement, because it simply allready provides the modern base and there is not much to add anymore, even armor.
Yes, the issue with ammunition is absolutly correct and I agree completly. What we do not need, is a ****load of AKs again. we need to seriously concentrate on developing something that is based on the durability of the soviet AK-47, but also on modern standarts relating to combat effectiviness ( accuracy at long range distance ). AK-47 was developed for the mass, we don't have mass, we have a very small armed forces so we need a decent assault rifle.
If you thought about the AK-12, ...... then I don't know what you're thinking .... ^^
When I mentioned AK series, of course I mean the newer ones, advocating for equipping our army with AK-47 is almost like giving them Long-swords and Bows and Arrows
All in all I think we agree on most parts. By the way do you know anything about what they are going to display on the 26th? Will there be tracked vehicles? Anything new we might want to watch out for?
Cobras are still used predominantly by the MIA, the GAF has only a handful of Cobras (I believe about 10 vehicles currently in service with the GAF Special Forces)Whatever happened to your Cobras?
And besides now that we have our national products, it would be bad for the PR of the Government to display anything foreign, if you catch my drift
What still happens though, I mean during parade. The Cobra was there at last time. To be hoenst, Cobra was a good choice, but if we don't get any upgraded variants, like AT, it's mostly useless for our military on long run and in 2008 it was used mainly ( if not only ) by our police forces. It's a good vehicle whatsoever, no question.Cobras are still used predominantly by the MIA, the GAF has only a handful of Cobras (I believe about 10 vehicles currently in service with the GAF Special Forces)
And besides now that we have our national products, it would be bad for the PR of the Government to display anything foreign, if you catch my drift
Yeah, I am very interesting what kind of ammunition, they will expose in that small documentary on May 26.
.... and the retardiness goes on .....Parade will be held in Kutaisi at the new parliament building
Why don't they simply declare Kutaisi as the actual capital of Georgia ( ****, I shouldn't provide them more retarded ideas .... )
Some photos from the rehearsal of the Parade in Kutaisi.
Didgori 3
Wolf
Lazika (boy, do I hate this designation)
Didgori 2 with Minigun
Didgori 2 with Remote Control Module (although it is a bit shorter than Didgori 2, which would suggest that it could be Didgori 4)
ZCRS-122
Spyder SAM Command and Control Vehicle
OSA-AKM
DANA
LAR-160
T-72B
Last edited by Georgian Warrior; 05-22-2012 at 06:11 PM.
... Seems that I was right about a new APC variant, but actually I was expecting a different vehicle .... hm, could be still in development though.
Anyway, nice to see diverse variants, also with RC turrets. But I honestly don't get the idea of the Didgori-3 .....
Edit: Could be multifunctional, maybe the rear components are for an installation of mortar system with ammo storage + troop transport.
About those Spyders. It is a bit strange to me that they didn't expose them in 2010, when they clearly showed some of the vehicles during the rehearsel. Spyder is in use for some 5, probably 6 years now .........
Thank you for the pictures !
Last edited by WhiteGeorge; 05-23-2012 at 08:59 AM.
Some more pics
T-72B
Infantry
I wonder where the Sim1-s are, hmm...
The first Georgian tank
From:Yesterday the newspaper , "THE VIEW" , referring to information from its correspondent in Georgia, reported on the upcoming May 26 show the first tank "collected" in Georgia, hinting at a possible next upgrade of the Russian T-72. However, an additional 12 April, one of Georgia's blogs , similar to "project engineer" from the center of "Delta" was spread about that this tank is full of Georgian national development, with the support of U.S. firms (but who would doubt), "General Electric "and" General Dynamics ",It is also reported on the possible export of the tank Georgia Allies, as well as in Iraq and Pakistan, Are these images correspond to the actual appearance of the Georgian tank is not yet known, but the premiere a few days left to wait - wait and see..
http://gurkhan.blogspot.in/
Yea right, and I have a Tactical Nuclear Device stashed away in my Closet
Do you know how long it took the Turks to get to where they are now with Altai and how much longer it will take them to mass produce it?
I will be happy if they bring out some T-72Sim1s...
Why start developing your own tank design anyway, T-72SIM1 is fairly potent machine, and there are plenty of (fairly) new secondhand western tanks out there for a bargain.
The first Georgian tank
I know right, so freaking stupid
The first Georgian tank
Could not agree with you more!
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