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    24 units only. It's a damn shame we didn't get more of them. And they will all be in Norrland too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk554 View Post
    AFAIR there will be final number of 24, all to be located at A9 Boden.
    Only 24? That number is a damn shame
    Does Sverige still have towed artillery anymore?

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    Nope. Only archers

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    Quote Originally Posted by crane11 View Post
    Only 24? That number is a damn shame
    Does Sverige still have towed artillery anymore?
    Going from 177 FH77s only 20 years ago to 24 archers is indeed shameful. Sure, they are more capable but there is something to be said about quantity being a quality of itself.
    We have no towed art in the general sense, only a number of 8cm and 12cm mortars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk554 View Post
    Going from 177 FH77s only 20 years ago to 24 archers is indeed shameful. Sure, they are more capable but there is something to be said about quantity being a quality of itself.
    We have no towed art in the general sense, only a number of 8cm and 12cm mortars.
    Well......I can only say R.I.P Swedish army

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    Quote Originally Posted by crane11 View Post
    Well..I can only say R.I.P Swedish army
    FH77 & FH77B represents an exelent family of great howitzers, but they can't keep up with the rapid combat of advancing or retreating mechanised units..

    FH77B would be left behind when the Swedish army units retreat in case of a conflict scenario on Swedish soil

    But I agree that 24 Archers is not enough. It would be 48 of them. That number would be more sufficient, and give the artillery the same firepower as aprox. 150 - 200 FH77B howitzers.


    We have suffered from the lack of an army for at least 10 - 15 years now BTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nighthawk554 View Post
    Going from 177 FH77s only 20 years ago to 24 archers is indeed shameful. Sure, they are more capable but there is something to be said about quantity being a quality of itself.
    We have no towed art in the general sense, only a number of 8cm and 12cm mortars.
    We need to purchase about 28 to 35 new Patria NEMO mortars for our seven ground-combat battalions. The desperatly need a battalion level fire support option!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maskirovka View Post
    Donīt know if it is a repost
    An swedish excercise from 1981. The plot is a small number of troops try to take over key installations in the capitol (like the Royal Palace, the media centers and such) with surprise. Eg. Spetznaz would do in the early hours of the war.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EERvENvL95s

    Great video, nice to see the ikv91 in action to (as ikv91, only seen them used to simulate T-72s)..


    I actually love the concept of exercises like this, in the real environment.. Having seen the effects of units trained on the streets of Stockholm vs units from other parts of Sweden it's a big advantage to be training in your real life AO..
    Funny though that they actually assaulted the palace, I wonder what the tourists thought
    pretty hard to imagine the US Army being allowed to run an exercise where they physically assault capitolium or the White House...



    Quote Originally Posted by Hardguy80 View Post
    We need to purchase about 28 to 35 new Patria NEMO mortars for our seven ground-combat battalions. The desperatly need a battalion level fire support option!
    Why the NEMO and not the AMOS on a CV90 or AMV chassis?

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    The NEMO?

    Probably cheaper..

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    OK, so here's the planned new organisation for the Swedish army:

    5x Mechanized battalions(2x MBT Coy(Leo2S), 2x Mech inf coy(CV9040), 1x HQ/spt coy, 1x CSS coy)
    2x Motorized battalions (3x inf coy(Patria AMV), 1x HQ/Spt coy, 1x CSS Coy)
    1x Light infantry battalion("Livbataljon", Battalion specialised in MOUT and ceremonial duties)
    2x Brigade recce companys (CV9040)
    2x Artillery battalions
    2x Air defense battalions
    2x Engineer battalions
    2x Logistic battalions
    1x Ranger battalion
    1x ISR battalion
    1x Command post battalion
    1x Tactical communications battalion
    1x Electronic warfare battalion

    The main difference from the current structure is that each mechanized battalion will have 2 tank companys(total of 10) instead of the 3 independent tank companys of today. This will increase the number of tanks in the organization from 42 to 110, and that 2 brigade recce companys is formed, equipped with CV9040. The army will basically divide the battalions and companys into 2 brigades. The number of tanks is increased because we want to have better chances in a high intensity conflict scenario since we are now focusing on national defense rather than international missions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henke556 View Post
    OK, so here's the planned new organisation for the Swedish army:
    Perhaps a source?

    And as a result of the increased amount of Leo2S are they all going to be modernized or overhauled? Or are they still only going to overhaul the 42ish as was previously mentioned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henke556 View Post
    OK, so here's the planned new organisation for the Swedish army:
    What happened to 7th light infantry battalion? Surely they can't be put under Livbataljon or supplied with Patria AMV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose View Post
    Perhaps a source?

    And as a result of the increased amount of Leo2S are they all going to be modernized or overhauled? Or are they still only going to overhaul the 42ish as was previously mentioned?
    The source is the Swedish armed forces HQ. No decisions have been taken about the new organization.. You can also read about the work that has been done with the new organization here: http://jagarchefen.blogspot.se/2013/...erspektiv.html

    Will if a decision is taken to adopt this new organization, the plan is to modernize all the tanks that is needed, this will be afforded by not modernize as many CV90 as was originally planned since the number of CV90 will be fewer in the mechanized battalions(2 mech inf coys instead of 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dansken View Post
    What happened to 7th light infantry battalion? Surely they can't be put under Livbataljon or supplied with Patria AMV?
    Well, don't know for sure, but it looks like the battalion will be transformed to a motorized battalion with Patria AMV. Livbataljon will also grow to aprox 600 men.

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    How large is the Swedish army? And why move back to territorial defense rather than continue the gears toward more intense international missions like Congo and Afghanistan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaPatetOrbis View Post
    How large is the Swedish army? And why move back to territorial defense rather than continue the gears toward more intense international missions like Congo and Afghanistan?
    Aprox 2 brigades + a couple of indeendent battalions + 40 home guard battalions. We're moving back to territorial defense because of the development in Russia. The main task has always been to defend the homeland, but that was forgotten for a couple of years..

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