24 units only. It's a damn shame we didn't get more of them. And they will all be in Norrland too...
Only 24? That number is a damn shame
Originally Posted by Nighthawk554
Does Sverige still have towed artillery anymore?
Going from 177 FH77s only 20 years ago to 24 archers is indeed shameful. Sure, they are more capable but there is something to be said about quantity being a quality of itself.
Originally Posted by crane11
We have no towed art in the general sense, only a number of 8cm and 12cm mortars.
Last edited by Hardguy80; 10-26-2013 at 04:03 PM.
We need to purchase about 28 to 35 new Patria NEMO mortars for our seven ground-combat battalions. The desperatly need a battalion level fire support option!
Originally Posted by nighthawk554
Originally Posted by Maskirovka
Great video, nice to see the ikv91 in action to (as ikv91, only seen them used to simulate T-72s)..
I actually love the concept of exercises like this, in the real environment.. Having seen the effects of units trained on the streets of Stockholm vs units from other parts of Sweden it's a big advantage to be training in your real life AO..
Funny though that they actually assaulted the palace, I wonder what the tourists thought
pretty hard to imagine the US Army being allowed to run an exercise where they physically assault capitolium or the White House...
Why the NEMO and not the AMOS on a CV90 or AMV chassis?
Originally Posted by Hardguy80
OK, so here's the planned new organisation for the Swedish army:
5x Mechanized battalions(2x MBT Coy(Leo2S), 2x Mech inf coy(CV9040), 1x HQ/spt coy, 1x CSS coy)
2x Motorized battalions (3x inf coy(Patria AMV), 1x HQ/Spt coy, 1x CSS Coy)
1x Light infantry battalion("Livbataljon", Battalion specialised in MOUT and ceremonial duties)
2x Brigade recce companys (CV9040)
2x Artillery battalions
2x Air defense battalions
2x Engineer battalions
2x Logistic battalions
1x Ranger battalion
1x ISR battalion
1x Command post battalion
1x Tactical communications battalion
1x Electronic warfare battalion
The main difference from the current structure is that each mechanized battalion will have 2 tank companys(total of 10) instead of the 3 independent tank companys of today. This will increase the number of tanks in the organization from 42 to 110, and that 2 brigade recce companys is formed, equipped with CV9040. The army will basically divide the battalions and companys into 2 brigades. The number of tanks is increased because we want to have better chances in a high intensity conflict scenario since we are now focusing on national defense rather than international missions..
Perhaps a source?
Originally Posted by Henke556
And as a result of the increased amount of Leo2S are they all going to be modernized or overhauled? Or are they still only going to overhaul the 42ish as was previously mentioned?
Last edited by Moose; 11-01-2013 at 11:47 AM.
What happened to 7th light infantry battalion? Surely they can't be put under Livbataljon or supplied with Patria AMV?
Originally Posted by Henke556
The source is the Swedish armed forces HQ. No decisions have been taken about the new organization.. You can also read about the work that has been done with the new organization here: http://jagarchefen.blogspot.se/2013/...erspektiv.html
Originally Posted by Moose
Will if a decision is taken to adopt this new organization, the plan is to modernize all the tanks that is needed, this will be afforded by not modernize as many CV90 as was originally planned since the number of CV90 will be fewer in the mechanized battalions(2 mech inf coys instead of 3)
Well, don't know for sure, but it looks like the battalion will be transformed to a motorized battalion with Patria AMV. Livbataljon will also grow to aprox 600 men.
Originally Posted by Dansken
How large is the Swedish army? And why move back to territorial defense rather than continue the gears toward more intense international missions like Congo and Afghanistan?
Aprox 2 brigades + a couple of indeendent battalions + 40 home guard battalions. We're moving back to territorial defense because of the development in Russia. The main task has always been to defend the homeland, but that was forgotten for a couple of years..
Originally Posted by QuaPatetOrbis