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    After a long hiatus, the Israeli Navy has returned to sailing through the Suez Canal, recently sending one of its advanced Dolphin-class submarines through the waterway to participate in naval maneuvers off the Eilat coast in the Red Sea. IDF sources said the decision to allow navy vessels to sail through the canal was made recently and was a definite "change of policy" within the service. In 2005, then OC Navy Adm. David Ben-Bashat decided to stop sending Israeli ships through the canal due to growing threats in the area. However, the Dolphin-class submarine sailed through last month to get from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea. Israeli officials said it passed through the canal above water, and that it was not done covertly. "It is a question of policy," a senior officer explained. "Navy vessels have sailed through the canal on several occasions recently."

    The significance of the move was debatable, but it could be interpreted as a message to Iran and a demonstration of strengthening ties between Egypt and Israel. In the event of a conflict with Iran, and if Israel decided to involve its three Dolphin-class submarines - which according to foreign reports can fire nuclear-tipped cruise missiles and serve as a second-strike platform - the quickest route would be to send them through the Suez Canal.
    The only way to get to the Gulf of Oman without refueling would be to go through the canal. With their reported 4,500 nautical mile range, taking the long way, around Africa, would require the Dolphins to make at least two stops for refueling at a friendly port, or for fuel to be replenished at sea.
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    Israel's three Dolphin Class diesel-electic submarines are a design based on the Type 212 non-nuclear U-Boat developed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft AG (HDW) for the German Navy. Who'd have thunk it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrundi V Bakshi View Post
    Israel's three Dolphin Class diesel-electic submarines are a design based on the Type 212 non-nuclear U-Boat developed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft AG (HDW) for the German Navy. Who'd have thunk it
    No, actually they are based on the Type 209 class.

    http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dolphin/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_class_submarine

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    dear Hrundi V Bakshi
    if you go few lines down in "general discussion" there is already thread on this issue.
    do we really need another thread ? you deserve warning as minimum.

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    Are you a Moderator or Admin that you warn people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoaMei View Post
    Are you a Moderator or Admin that you warn people?
    no. just expressed my opinion.

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    Link please. I checked the first two pages on both General Discussion and Political forums, and found nothing on this specific news item. Do you mean the thread titled Diesel electric subs, our latest annoyance? I think my post justifies a stand alone thread to see if the discussion will lead to long term Israeli Navy strategy in the Red Sea.

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    Okey doke, I only checked back as far as Friday the third.

    edit/ I've read the link. It still leaves the door open to discuss if Israel has aspirations to expand it's naval operations into the Red Sea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrundi V Bakshi View Post

    Israel's three Dolphin Class diesel-electic submarines are a design based on the Type 212 non-nuclear U-Boat developed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft AG (HDW) for the German Navy. Who'd have thunk it
    What do you mean by who'd have thunk it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrundi V Bakshi View Post
    Okey doke, I only checked back as far as Friday the third.

    edit/ I've read the link. It still leaves the door open to discuss if Israel has aspirations to expand it's naval operations into the Red Sea.

    The Red sea is a bit of a bottleneck, do you really think expensive resources should be tied up there? I would have thought that in naval terms its a transit zone.


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    @ LRPV. Think Eritrea.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoaMei View Post
    No, actually they are based on the Type 209 class.
    Damn. Out by 3 digits. That changes everything.

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    Are you referring to Dahlak Island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoaMei View Post
    True, but they are VERY different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrundi V Bakshi View Post
    @ LRPV. Think Eritrea.



    Damn. Out by 3 digits. That changes everything.
    Actually it changes everything, like in F-5 and F-8.

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    like U-235 and U-238

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