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    In Afghanistan, it’s hard to peel apart the insurgency from the opium trade. So U.S. Special Forces are trying a different approach in their war on Afghan drugs. Forget burning down the poppy fields. For months, American and Afghan commandos have been pulling off a series of truly massive busts, involving tons of opium.
    In late June, Afghan National Army Commandos of the 205th Corps and coalition forces seized 350 pounds of black tar heroin. A few days later, there was an 1,100-pound opium bust. But those pale in comparison to the biggest haul of all: 202,996 pounds of opium, processed morphine, processed heroin, hashish and poppy seeds, seized over four days in the city of Marjeh. It’s the largest drug seizure in Afghanistan since 2001.
    Perhaps it’s only a coincidence many of these hauls took place in Helmand province, in advance one of the largest American offenses of the war.
    Before 2004, opium was largely seen by the American military as a domestic issue. But in past years, more and more of the Taliban’s funding has come from drug trafficking, turning it from a local issue to an international security problem. Simply torching the poppy fields in a Colombian-style eradication hasn’t slowed down the drug flow. Projects to pay farmers to cultivate other crops have been uneven, at best. Go back and re-read one of Sarah Chayes’ heartbreaking dispatches from Kandahar in 2006 about the Alternative Livelihoods Program. She described a giant scheme run by for-profit USAID contractor Chemonics:
    Chemonics holds a $119 million, five-year contract to develop alternatives to poppy cultivation in the southern provinces. Since May 2005, only $4 million of the money has been spent, and probably three quarters of that has gone to salaries — a minimum of $100,000 per ex-pat per year base pay, plus at least 90 percent more for hazard posting — and installation costs. In Kandahar, A.L.P. maintains a sumptuous office: a large compound with a generous garden, equipped with luxury four-wheel-drive vehicles, computers and air conditioners, and staffed by administrators, drivers, guards and cooks. And no one uses it. Apart from work on a few roads, no project has yet been funded by A.L.P. in Kandahar.
    These days, Special Forces are trying a different tactic, by going for the big busts. U.S. troops are mixing in counterinsurgency approaches in hopes of keeping the farmers, who need the money from the drug harvest, from becoming Taliban supporters as they watch their fields burn. Essentially, the Special Forces have drawn a line between the farmers scratching out a living with Afghanistan’s only cash crop and Taliban operatives.
    “By the time it has been refined, we’re dealing with narco-trafficers,” a Special Forces officer said. The soldier asked that his name not be used for security reasons because he is currently deployed.
    He added that the soldiers are trying hard to target raids so that they not only disrupt the drug trade, but also hurt the Taliban’s military operations. The operation that ended in the Marjeh drug bust started months before. The Special Forces officer said they saw indicators that the Taliban felt safe in the area and leaders were coming in and meeting in the village. Besides the large drug cache, the raid also turned up weapons, bomb making materials and a trove of maps and other intelligence.
    “Not only did we disrupt the drug center, but a command and control node or at least a planning center,” the Special Forces officer said. He also hopes the busts will disrupt the Taliban’s already-stressed supply chain. “It basically lets the water out of the pond that they are swimming in when it comes to logistics and funding.”
    Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently told the Senate that dismantling the Taliban’s narcotics networks is crucial, but that U.S. Forces have had “almost no success” in the last eight years.
    Helmand province is the center of opium production and provides almost 90 percent of the world’s supply. The Taliban get 70 percent of their money to buy supplies and fund attacks from opium, according to Gretchen Peters, author of Seeds of Terror: How Heroin Is Bankrolling the Taliban and al Qaeda.
    “The main problem in Afghanistan is opium and there is plenty more where that came from,” said John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org. His solution is simple: buy up the crop. He thinks the U.S. government should outbid the Taliban drug kingpins.
    “You price them out of the market,” Pike said. “We’ve been having big drug busts and how much difference has it made? We seem to be disrupting and provoking them into killing each other. We’ve raised the level of violence, but have we diminished the cash flow? Not that I’ve been able to detect.” Pike compared the drug war in Afghanistan to the Soviet occupation. The U.S. is facing an insurgency funded not by the people, but by an outside power. For the Soviets, it was the CIA. For U.S. forces, it is junkies worldwide.
    “That is a pretty tough adversary,” he added. “Those junkies are not to be denied. When they want a fix, they are going to get a fix. There is no amount of counterinsurgency that is going to solve this problem.”

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    Good stuff Budanski!
    Nice to see you posting ...

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    Thanks for sharing!

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    They seized black tar heroin in Afghanistan?

    That's a little strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Lazy American View Post
    They seized black tar heroin in Afghanistan?

    That's a little strange.

    why is that strange ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Lazy American View Post
    They seized black tar heroin in Afghanistan?

    That's a little strange.
    Really, usually I see it in "Today's Photos" thread in smaller amounts like 2 to 8 bags of it. Look's like this was a major success, that's a few million the the Taliban won't be getting.

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    Perhaps it is also a coincidence, but I have to wonder if this new initiative against the drug traffickers helped motivate the Russians to allow military overflights of their territory. Afghan drugs have been a major domestic issue for them.

    Regardless, that's fantastic news. I hope our soldiers get the resources they need to destroy the Afghan drug market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapnNemesis View Post
    why is that strange ?

    Because black tar heroin is dirty and they leave out the last step in processing to make it powder.That is usually done by South Americans
    afghan heroin is very potent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INAT View Post
    Because black tar heroin is dirty and they leave out the last step in processing to make it powder.That is usually done by South Americans
    afghan heroin is very potent.
    This site's like a school, I learn something new everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUCKINFUTS View Post
    This site's like a school, I learn something new everyday.
    But nothing useful, dammit! Like how to do that last step in the processing.

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    some pix of the operation siege engine

    they seized sh!tload of black tar heroin




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    Black tar heroin is Mexican. South Americans (Colombians, particularly) make high quality white heroin. And when I say "black tar heroin is Mexican", I mean it's Mexican. No one else makes it. Finding a bunch of tar in an Afghan stash would be like finding tortillas in an Afghan kitchen.

    Those bags look to me like raw opium, not heroin, but I have no way of knowing, of course.

    And the difference has to do mostly with chemistry know-how and which chemicals and equipment are used in processing. It seems odd to me that Afghan heroin producers (who have been in the game for a long, long time) would change their "recipe", so to speak.

    I find it unlikely that Afghan heroin producers lack the knowledge to make higher quality heroin. I find it unlikely that they lack the equipment (any decent-sized lab is going to have the ability to fabricate their own equipment if necessary.)

    Which leads me to suspect that Afghan heroin producers are having trouble getting the chemicals they need to process heroin how they normally do.

    Either that or what's being called "black tar heroin" is an intermediary -- it's not really opium, it's not really heroin, so they're just calling it "black tar heroin".

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    Great video, thanks for sharing.

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    Great video and photos

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    Default Special Forces Go for Big Busts in Afghan Drug War

    You know what I was expecting something a bit more NSFW when I saw that thread title

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