12GA From Hell, 8Ga FH, 4GA FH, 700HE, 585HE, years of fun work--
New visitor here, and you folks have a nice site. Others and myself
over on the AR forums and around the net have worked on a
concept of hopping up big bores, one of which is the 12GA From Hell
as we call it. Idea was Rob's and the first picture is of his Borchardt
fallong block,the first gun chambered in the 12GA FH.
Second picture is one of the cases next to a regular 12ga plastic case,
Cases are 3.85" long and we made them by putting rims on BMG brass.
And the shorter brass or plastic cases still fire in our chambers fine,
so it is still a 12ga, just with a long case, and isn't a DD.
Next picture is the second gun to have that case, my Savage 210 with a
heavy barrel replacing light factory barrel, now with thumb hole stock.
Next is the third gun to have that case, my NEF Ultra Slug Gun,
and the barrel was heavy enough, so we only had to deepen the
chamber. We also added to the barrel to make 36" rifled barrel.
Next is a couple of another AR poster RIP's Nefs, redone in long chamber
with brakes on them.
Next is the 8GA FH gun I setup by boring out a heavy barrel
10ga NEF. We use the super strong plastic 8 ga kiln gun cases.
I also have some of my own wildcat cases the 585HE, and 700HE,
and they are listed in the new Blue Book Ammo Encyclopedia, In this
picture shows a MRC PH action, the first one out of their shop, I setup
with my 700HE 3.25" case. I tested it with a 825 gr bullet at 2900 fps.
Hunting loads are 25-2600 fps.
Next picture is the inexpensive 4ga/bore falling block we are working
on, getting big falling block actions cost an arm and a leg.
Maybe done in a few weeks to fire.I make cases from 20mm brass
in last picture with a 30-06 for comparison.We have 5 years work
and hundreds of pictures with this great experiment.Ed
Last edited by hubel458; 08-02-2009 at 09:40 PM.
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Insane stuff - Do you have any vids of them being fired - if so please post i'd love to see the recoil .
Failed Mouse Hunter
X2...the recoil must be insane.
Originally Posted by gregb
Any chance of posting a link to the Youtube video?
Nice Kahles scope on first pic.
Blutarsky- Yes that is a real nice gun Rob set up, and doing most
of his own work he has a 20 grand gun for a 1/4 as much.
Wahnsinn- Here are the two links-Ed
Here is a photo of the water pail atomising.
Last edited by hubel458; 08-03-2009 at 02:19 PM.
I see you have tooken care of that. I was going to post the videos of it into the Shotgun thread.
Hubel here is a great person. Want a Shotgun with some real hunting Knockdown power shoot him a PM.
He could help you get setup on everything you need.
Soon to be on of my HR Parnders for him to massage over.
Well the great guys are the ones like 59 diesel who help out and
encourage us. Experimenting with big bores involves so much work,
time, supplies and parts and everyone helping out makes it work.
I just kinda put everyones ideas and inputs together,
and try to tell everyone about the whole process.
Closeup picture, a double 12GA FH Rob is doing by mono-blocking
in heavy rifled barrels on a heavy Spanish Zabala 10ga frame.
He made the big game gun style quarter rib for it also.
Beautiful job, and a lot of time. Plans on Africa with it in
the future. Ed
Are these known as Elephant guns?
Oh yes, as they are just hopped up, longer case versions of
the 12GA Paradox guns used for elephant, in the late 1800s,
and early 1900s. Only with modern stronger actions and barrels,
for more power and at the same time safer.Ed
Here is the front end of the 4bore, showing the 1" diameter
slug in end of barrel, simulating stop frame photo work.
Of course no one would put camera in front this close if
it was firing. Barrel is 32" long, 1 7/8" breech diameter and
a smoothbore. I will shoot hollowbase slugs that work best in
smoothbores. About 1600gr slugs at 20-2200 fps regular loads,
and up to 2700 for bragging rights.Ed
just curious about the range of some of these beastly firearms ?