Is this really true? I've never heard of this, are their any sources where this can be found? (English/Swedish/German/Dutch sources are fine)Originally Posted by BMUS
Anyways, this whole business seems to have spiralled out of control. The sad thing is that some people live by what Aftonbladet preaches.
No the true extent of the concentration camp system were revealed in 1945. No one wanted to believe it.
As for the racial biology thing, everybody and their mother did that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
This was a huge movement.
Sounds familiar.
Photographic had a good explanation for that.
I might have been to hastily on my posts. This was what I've been told by a friend of mine while he were studying at the Uni. The course was 'Sverige och förintelsen'.
I'll check in to it more deeply. Until then I retract my statement.
Exactly. At the same time it is articles like those that eventually will make people start to question the tabloids.
Allready in 42 Sweden had 'intel' about gas chamber being used in large extent to erradicate Jews in Poland.
'In his book Per Anger describes how reports of liquidation in gas chambers in Poland, one way or another, already in 1942, had reached Budapest.
March 19th 1944 Germany invaded Hungary. After the German invasion the situation changed drastically. Per Anger witnessed the Nazi's persecutions and how their "final solution" plans were put in motion.
[...]
In his book Per Anger describes how reports of liquidation in gas chambers in Poland, one way or another, already in 1942, had reached Budapest. '
http://www.geocities.com/peranger/history.html
Yeah, but we actually build a institute, it didn't reach that far in other countries.
What a surprise - Lieberman and Barak proving themselves to be complete fools yet again...This case is nothing but an example of politicians at work.
noone wanted a wave of immigrating jews coming to their country, dont make it out to be only sweden, and I would like a source.
Sweden did alot for the jews folke bernadotte alone saved thousands by being direct with himmler. Sweden also provided with massive human aid at the end of the war saving many.
and to the non swedish ppl around here, swedish media is marxist especially aftonbladet, they let real 100% communist idiots and muslim extremists write colums in their "cultural pages".
The arrests of jews in Norway started in the fall of 1942. So sorry, you guys were nice
As for the Institute, you should read the wiki page. If you dig deeper I think you will find that this kind of racial superiority thinking was quite popular. Nedless to say that after Hitler took it to the extreme, these theories took a serious nose dive.
No you weren't worse than anybody else.
I still think you are evil though.
This is a ridiculous. I have no love whatsoever for any crappy tabloid, especially not Aftonbladet, but they have absolutely no communist or marxist connections. That's just useless hyperbole. It's also silly to assign the content of opinion pieces as the newspapers own opinion, when they are in fact written by outside sources.
All their headlines are crafted to make sales, the real story takes the backseat when profit is the motive. They pull out dirt and gossip about as many politicians and celebrities as possible, anywhere on the political spectrum.
Just stop buying their papers, and enlighten others of their crappitude. Eventually they will be irrelevant.
Don't forget Wallenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg)
Right wing extremists usually call every one to the left of them marxist etc..
I've said that the FM's remark about it is stupid.
As for what Sweden did do or didn't do, this is not to place.
I think that's what's going on there.
A tabloid is a tabloid. They write what sells.
I think it's an outrage we don't have a memorial holiday to this man.Don't forget Wallenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg)
Edit; Just spoke to my friend over the phone who had taken the course. He will give me a footnote mattering Sweden's (and also Switzerland's) pushing of the German gov. to brand every Jews passport with the David's star insignia. But I wont get it today, now I'm out to have a beer instead.
Edit 2;
Eh. They let Jan Myrdal write for them and he's a full blooded Lenin loving idiot.
Last edited by BMUS; 08-21-2009 at 02:48 PM.
I'm sorry but they have taken a turn for the worse. This is the woman who is head of the culture section now. She's a bona fide communist and bat crazy in general.
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85sa_Linderborg
So did USA and UK.
Plenty of politics in the background but the main lobby group was the Swedish physicians/med students who didn't want a mass immigration of jewish doctors from Germany.
First of all, the article blatantly malicious and slanderous. I would imagine that if the paper published similar accounts about Americans in Iraq or the Brits in Afganistan, the reaction of the respective governments would be severe.
Why is the govermnent involved? - because the armed forces are the agents of the state, thus the article basically accused the state of Israel and the duty of refuting this nonsence falls to the FM.
Israel's government is also fuming because a similar article about Americans, Brits, or Germans would be implicitly categorized as lunacy, yet its accepted as something "needing further independent investigation" when it concerns Israel. This is a testiment to how the Sweedish public evidently sees Israel and the Israelis - hardened, evil, devoid of compasion or humanity. Inhuman. Not too different from what was said about the Jews in the 30s.
The article is more sinister yet. It make implications about a global Jewish conspiracy and imploys imagies consistent with the most vile antisemitic theories. Fathom the outcry, if the paper published an article about a world-wide negro collusion to rape white women based on some flimsy testimonials of the Missisippi clan member! It does not target Israel or Israelis, it targets Jews at large.
In short, freedom of speach is not freedom to say anything. Certain things are outside the pale of responsible jurnalism.
really ? http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85sa_Linderborg there is a communist for you she writes regulary for aftonbladet and was recently appointed to be chief of the culture pages.
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Omar here is an islamist extremist also a regular writer for aftonbladet denying the holocaust and supporting iran seems to be his speciality.
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