Let me tell you this RoyB, you have been brainwashed by your own media and leaders. A nice accusation you always give to your neighbouring countries.Originally Posted by RoyB
I have just read the original article. It says that palestinians are accusing the Israelis of stealing the organs of killed stonethrowers, fighters and terrorists. Not that palis are being killed for their organs, but that the dead ones are having their organs removed. Reason being that the killed have autopsy cuts in their bodies. The article also quotes and Israeli military official who mentions this is standard practise, the autopsys. The article is questioning israels illegal organ market, its is also accusing Pakistan, Phillipines, China, Turkey, Eastern Europe and Latin America.
Its not antisemitic per see, you are being fooled by your own people.
Yes I am comparing the two as well. One party portraits a peoples profet as as a terrorist and some dude claims that organs of dead Palestinians might have been used illegally by the israelis. Both people find it offensive and want respective governments to intervene. The funny thing is the support that Scandinavian countries suddenly had from israelis have suddenly disappeared, lol I say.
Your use of the antisemitic card is getting quite tiring and childish. Everyone who criticises Israel or Questions something is an antisemitic. Grow Up! Riots and car burning aside, you soon almost resemble your dear neighbours which you love to criticise so much. Welcome to the warmt
In israel right now, boycotts of swedish products and difficulties for swedish journalists to enter the country.
Most people agree that the Swedish government shouldn't apologize, including me. why should they?
The main claim of me at least is that the Swedish government excuse that its 'freedom of speech' is wrong, and that they should condemn the reporter and the paper that published it.
Huh???
Where did I say that its anti-Semitic?
Just curious though, do many of you guys get all news from these papers? My brother told me that he thought it was scary how many places in sweden you only see Aftonbladet and Expressen on the news stands :O
That would be the same as me reading Ekstrabladet every day, man that would suck, sensationalist bull**** at its best
Yes many do read aftonbladet, if i read a big news in Aftonbladet i ussually look it up in other newspapers. Aftonbladet is same as CNN or BBC. They make big scoops but not neceserily true ones.Just curious though, do many of you guys get all news from these papers? My brother told me that he thought it was scary how many places in sweden you only see Aftonbladet and Expressen on the news stands :O
That would be the same as me reading Ekstrabladet every day, man that would suck, sensationalist bull**** at its best
Let's put the shoe on the other foot for a second. If an article, let's say the disparaging one about Swedes and the Norwegian fishing catch, appeared in the Israeli paper HaOlam Hazeh (defunct now), would Swedes know enough that it too was a rag to not be offended?
No one knows/knew that the Aftonbladet is Sweden's version of the US "National Enquirer" and isn't taken very seriously. But now see it from our perspective; the "Blood Libel" term being thrown around has a history of being used against us, and not just by the nut jobs. On top of that is the regular diet of poisoned balloons and the tripe on Palestinian "educational" TV.
Good to see that this Swedish goverment actually stands up for freedom of speech, in these situations, unlike the last one that gave in to pressure during the cartoon "crisis". This shows the level of desperation in Israel within their new goverment. They thought they could win political points by forcing one of the western European countries that has been their fiercest critics to admit to some kind of hereditary wrongdoing thereby nullifying their current critisism of Israel. The ironic part in this story is that the current moderat/liberal goverment is actually pro-Israeli for the most part unlike the previous socialdemocrat/leftist. Israel isn't really improving it's international standing as of late, no more carte blanche for you...
Wasn't it the same Swedish government that wasn't so supportive of Denmark during the Muhammed thingie, as the one they have now?
Our current coalition government took power in 2006, about 1 year after the publication. So no.
Ok my bad. Well sosserne always were spineless weren't they (like ours, thank the gods it's been 9 years since they had any power)
It looks hostility toward Israel in Sweden is not limited by articles in tabloids.
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/glob...492018&fid=942Investment bank BlackRock divests from Africa-Israel
BlackRock has reportedly succumbed to pressure from Scandinavian banks over West Bank construction.
Hillel Koren23 Aug 09 11:32
UK investment bank BlackRock, part of the global investment bank BlackRock Inc. (NYSE: BLK) sold all its shares in Africa-Israel Investments Ltd. (TASE:AFIL; Pink Sheets:AFIVY) between June and August following pressure from three Scandinavian banks over construction in West Bank settlements. Africa-Israel, controlled by chairman Lev Leviev, is involved in construction activities in the West Bank including at Ma'aleh Adumim near Jerusalem.
In the past BlackRock was Africa-Israel's second largest party at interest.
BlackRock's divestment comes in the wake of the refusal of the UK Embassy in Tel Aviv's to rent offices owned by Africa-Israel because of its construction work in West Bank settlements.
Skandiabanken information manager Johnny Anderson said, "We have received confirmation from BlackRock that Africa-Israel Investments no longer is part of their portfolio. The confirmation of the divestment was sent to Skandiabanken the day before yesterday on August 18."
Skandiabanken is headquartered in Sweden and has major activities in Norway.
Anderson added, "The way I interpret the e-mail I have received, Africa-Israel is no longer to be found in any of BlackRock's funds."
Africa-Israel's share rose 6.42% this morning on the TASE to NIS 69.17.
One Israeli minister today rightly said, that if this case was about homo******s, the magazine would have been hammered, thus so much of a freedom of speech.
In what way?
That some people who happen to be homos were accused for illegal organ trading or whatever? Don't think so. If the article had advocated killing all homos because if it, certainly.
squidO,
Being against construction on the non-Israeli West bank is hardly being anti-Israel but your post is clearly a terribly desperate attempt to go off-topic that is for sure.
What a private bank does is up to them btw.
On topic:
lightfire, that sounds like a very stupd minister.
Only 20 protesters joined up outside the Swedish embassy. Looks like most people see through the Lieberman smoke screen....
Confirmed by the Swedish gov, NO official request for condemnation or anything at all has been handed over. (TV4)
SwePM:
"It's important for me to say that you cannot turn to the Swedish government and ask it to violate the Swedish constitution," he was quoted as saying by the TT news agency.
Said it since day 1... the Israeli gov is trying to take its people on a ride. No one really cares about a Swedish tabloid ffs.
This is ridiculous. "Blood Libel" crap pretty much defines HQ nut jobs. Probably you wanted to say that there were times that nut jobs were in power. Is there really any risk for such turnover in Sweden? I don't think so. So use existing channels. i.e. legal prosecution.
Eh national populists has a habit of finding external enemies to ramp upp national support and do so by using historically sensitive and emotional terms.
Be it Chavez, Cheney, Ahmadinejad... or;
Lieberman.
Yesterday Sweden, today Norway, tomorrow.. Germany ?
We shall see.
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