Instead of focusing on major issues Liberman "the clown" is wasting Israeli foreign ministry time and efforts on worthless side issues.
They are allowed to say that it's stupid and racist. There's no onus on them to say it, but they should be free to do it if they so choose. Therefore, the government's use of an argument about freedom of speech in their attempt to retract the statement of the Swedish ambassor to Israel showed them to be illiterate (however, apparently current Swedish law is the problem in this case).Originally Posted by Atlantic Friend
The only conclusion that comes to mind is:
If we were as bad as we are described, nobody would even dare to publish such a slanderous bunch of BS, 'cause we might steal the publisher's organs (sic)
Maybe Jews in Sweden should burn a few cars and riot a bit, it seems to have worked well for the muhammad cartoons (that weren't even as slanderous nor provocative as this "article" is)
To our Swedish friends, I find the intervention of the Israeli FM on this issue completely stupid, if your system allows for publishing any idea, photo and opinion, good for you, even if it does involve publishing antisemitic crap such as this article.
Antisemitic not in the "information" it purports to reveal, but in the muddy connections, assertions and other conspiracy put between the IDF and some shady orhtodox jews from the US.
It just reveals such a lack of knowledge and understanding of the par between Israel and the rest of the Jewish world it is just ridiculous, and outright slanderous.
Well let me try to explain it a bit more...The only conclusion that comes to mind is:
If we were as bad as we are described, nobody would even dare to publish such a slanderous bunch of BS, 'cause we might steal the publisher's organs (sic)
Maybe Jews in Sweden should burn a few cars and riot a bit, it seems to have worked well for the muhammad cartoons (that weren't even as slanderous nor provocative as this "article" is)
To our Swedish friends, I find the intervention of the Israeli FM on this issue completely stupid, if your system allows for publishing any idea, photo and opinion, good for you, even if it does involve publishing antisemitic crap such as this article.
Antisemitic not in the "information" it purports to reveal, but in the muddy connections, assertions and other conspiracy put between the IDF and some shady orhtodox jews from the US.
It just reveals such a lack of knowledge and understanding of the par between Israel and the rest of the Jewish world it is just ridiculous, and outright slanderous.
A minister can of course give his opinion on issues - I.E give his version but not officially comment on articles in the press. And while not part of law, that would especially be politically impossible if a foreign country is urging him to do so. Someone mentioned Obama.. if Obama had been a Swedish minister or PM, he would have been faced with a number of non-confidence votes and court dates already. If a minister would distance himself or condemn the article then he would be called upon to comment every other article in the press otherwise he is seen as taking sides.
It's a complete hands-off the media law.
gilgoul, it's not legal to publish with intent what could be hate propaganda, terrorist support, anti-semitic material, or lies about people. That's when you go to the police to report a legal violation. There's foreign states complaining over Swedish press articles all the time asking for condemnation, usually these states is dictatorships or corrupt regimes possibly because it's part of their own internal politics and possibly because of ignorance how the laws of expression works in Sweden. I am pretty sure some of the comments from Israeli ministers/ambassador has to do with a lack of knowledge. They seemed to target the gov more than the newspaper at one point.
So we have one tabloid who published one stupid article on their highly leftist cultural-pages at a time when the right-wing gov is holding the EU-chair. They love to start sh-tstorms. It gave the social-dems the opportunity to take the FM to court. They play a nice game together... Also people wonder why it was published and not the mohammed drawings... other than the fact that this particular paper is not neutral most papers decided against publisjing the drawings because they felt it would be too offensive. Most papers dont post anti-israeli junk like this either. The ones who published the drawings did so to make a point about freedom of speech in support of Jyllandsposten. So far no other newspaper har republished the article about Israeli soldiers afaik.
And yes Aftonbladet is sh-t. Owned by Norwegians !
I found just some info wiki, witch explain relation between government and authority.
Ministerstyre (lit. rule of ministers) is a Swedish word meaning that government ministers (more accurately, the Prime Minister, technically the only minister in Sweden's government, the heads of government departments [statsråd] who are informally called ministers) and members of parliament [riksdag]) do not have the right to influence or decide the handling of individual cases at government agencies. There is no equivalent term in English.
In Sweden this is unconstitutional, but is common practice in most other countries, such as the United Kingdom and the United States. In Sweden the government and parliament have regulatory power and are responsible for creating laws (in the case of parliament) and ordinances (in the case of the government) governing the workings of the different agencies. The reasoning behind this is to prevent government corruption, and that laws and regulations should be applied equally. It also motivates the government and parliament to get rid of hard-to-interpret or problematic laws and regulations. There are rare exceptions to this distinction, such as when a natural disaster or war occurs and there is a need for a shorter chain of command.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministerstyre
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Has the Schibsted group bought all of it? I thought it was an approx 50/50 split between the Schibsted group and Swedish LO(Trade Union)And yes Aftonbladet is sh-t. Owned by Norwegians !
This June... Schibsted owns 91% after they complete the transaction, maybe they already did. But it also says that LO will still have power on selecting editor in chief and so on.
Unfortunately since LO sold most of their shares, they can spend that money on the socialdems election campaign next year...
In my turn, I find your comment is completely stupid.Maybe Jews in Sweden should burn a few cars and riot a bit, it seems to have worked well for the muhammad cartoons (that weren't even as slanderous nor provocative as this "article" is)
To our Swedish friends, I find the intervention of the Israeli FM on this issue completely stupid, if your system allows for publishing any idea, photo and opinion, good for you, even if it does involve publishing antisemitic crap such as this article.
You prefer riots with burning cars instead of diplomatic steps?
You know it very well, jews in Sweeden will never do anything like this. But somebody should make it absolutely clear: such a things are unacceptable. And it is not only right but a duty for israeli FM to make steps in this direction.
This story is just a striking example of wide spreaded campagne of delegitimization and demonization of the State of Israel. All those stories about "israeli atrocities", "children killings", "crimes against humanity", and so on. All those NGOs, wich do not care about anything but to curse Israel and to demand a boycott of Israel.
This campagne is partly inspired and founded by arabs from the gulf and other muslims, partly by local elites and politicians, which in such a way prepare moral ground for implementing "realpolitik" - supporting the side of the conflict, which is convenient, profitable and safe to support. And partly by the plain old anti-semitism.
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Oh well, I sold my Schibsted shares years ago. So don't blame me!
I think they own Svenska Dagbladet as well.
I'm pretty sure he didn't actually mean that..
Could you please leave your tinfoil hat wearing victimhood to another thread?
I guess our foreign minister can expect an angry call from a certain ex bouncer FM
And yes Aftonbladet is sh-t. Owned by Norwegians !
So, ze Juice and ze Swedish are competing for the title of professional overreactors?
Any which part of his description do u object to?
Office of the Israel Air force Plans & Operations Officer.
"Michal, It's me Oded. Can you please bring me the file for Sassanid II, please"
"Avi, it's Oded, who's the best navigator in Ops and Planning? Eshkol? Send him down to me."
"Shalom Eshkol. You familiar with Sassanid II? That's right, direct to Isfahan and Natanz."
"So tell me, If we add another aerial refueling over Armenia and then Latvia, could you save a little something for the Aftonbladet?"
"I don't think the Swedes have any S-300s, but MP.net will have 15 threads about them acquiring it soon."
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