Reply With QuoteWhile there are no reports that it was financed by rich arabs etc.. There are no denying the facts that the growing Islamic population in Sweden is fueling anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish tensions..Originally Posted by ting
He is hinting that all critique of Israel is an arab/muslim plot. I find that kind of argumentation paranoid and border line racist.
While there are no reports that it was financed by rich arabs etc.. There are no denying the facts that the growing Islamic population in Sweden is fueling anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish tensions..
Why don't you prove that then. I have heard this from a lot of border line racists. Could the growing amount of anti-Israeli sentiment perhaps be explained by the Israeli occupation of WB, Gaza etc.?
Lets see: 5% muslims versus lets say 60% who oppose Israels occupation. You do the math.
What? It is not a secret that the most islamic organisations in Europe, including the most extremist, are financed from KSA and other arab states.
This is just an exapmle: a CIA report from 1996.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/CIA_Re...h_Terror_Links
Activities of these organizations are an integral part of the Israel-bashing campaign.
Last edited by squidO; 08-23-2009 at 06:43 AM.
Oh yes border line racists sure.... You explain to me why in places like Malmö the Islamization of the town has gone paralel with anti-Semitism. People were shouting Heil Hitler in the streets during a protest against Israel. Israeli tennis players were not safe there because of Muslim and Leftist gangs.
Lets see: 5% muslims versus lets say 60% who oppose Israels occupation. You do the math.
Besides occupation of Gaza? Which year are you living in? The Jews have been taken out of Gush Katif and other Jewish villages long ago, all what is left are a bunch of Arab clans and Israel has no obligation to them.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
In related news, two visiting journalists for the Swedish tabloid Aftonbladet which ran the story arrived at the Government Press Office (GPO) in Jerusalem Sunday to request press accreditation, Israel Radio reported. GPO Director Danny Seaman told the radio station that he had instructed his employees to take as much time as is needed and allowed by regulations - up to three months - to review the request. Seaman said that the two journalists, a reporter and a cameraman, had responded angrily and even "rudely" to the news that the review process may take time. Seaman asked his employees to explain to the two that the process may take some time due to checks that must be made, including - he said jokingly - blood tests to check the reporters' blood types and eligibility for organ transplant.
I think , instead of jokes, denial of accreditation and immediate deportation would have been much more appropriate.
I suppose if this would happend in an Islamic country, they would prefer to leave it voluntarily, silently, and as soon as possible.a reporter and a cameraman, had responded angrily and even "rudely" to the news that the review process may take time.
What's so hard to understand? I stated that the so called freedom of speech is very restricted in Sweden as it is so it's important that we defend whatever little we have.
Nothing is even remotely close of being "racist" in the article. People get locked up for very minor things here and that would undoubtedly have been the case here.
It's an article featuring unfounded accusations. The Swedish government is hindered by the constitution to interfere or comment and they do not wish to do so either.
Who needs eastern sucky old S-300... You people have been spending too much time in the third world. We have JAS 39 Gripen, Erieye, RBS-23 Bamse etc. With some F-22s you might have a remote chance.
Last edited by Breerman; 08-23-2009 at 09:15 AM.
Have you ever heard of douchebags? The scum that gives bad name to the group they're a part of, in this case the Muslims of Malmo. They don't even know anything about the protests nor do they even care, the only real reason behind their participation is that they enjoy vandalism and rioting. This has nothing to do with Islam. Why? Because they are stuck in the ghetto style social circle and lack the tools to get out of it, life is surely not easy for them, that's why they turn to violence and vandalism (just like their brothers in the ME).
Of course that's one of the issues regarding the immigration; integrating into a society with different values and norms, not to mention language and monetary issues, is not an easy task at all for some of the immigrants.
But for some reason some people still take the path of paranoia believing that Europe is doomed because of their so called new Muslim overlords who are in reality just plain street hooligans with no any real power whatsoever. This bullshyt makes no sense, really.
"partly inspired and founded by arabs from the gulf and other muslims".
This, in my view, is a reasonable assestment. SA and other Gulf states actively fund many of the most extrime anti-Israeli NGO. HRW fundraising compaign in SA featuring its anti-Israeli credentials is a sign that the mainstream organizations are picking up on the trend.
There maybe a lot of people who oppose Israeli control over Yesha. The question is how many have formed their opionion of the basis of mis-information put out by the SA funded NGOs ultra-left media "source" and how much influence traditional anti-jewish bias has to do with the intensity of oposition.
Lets see: 5% muslims versus lets say 60% who oppose Israels occupation. You do the math.
Player wrote the answer with a patience I can never hope to acquire
As for Gaza:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/is.htmlWest Bank and Gaza Strip are Israeli-occupied with current status subject to the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement - permanent status to be determined through further negotiation; Israel continues construction of a "seam line" separation barrier along parts of the Green Line and within the West Bank; Israel withdrew its settlers and military from the Gaza Strip and from four settlements in the West Bank in August 2005; Golan Heights is Israeli-occupied (Lebanon claims the Shab'a Farms area of Golan Heights); since 1948, about 350 peacekeepers from the UN Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO) headquartered in Jerusalem monitor ceasefires, supervise armistice agreements, prevent isolated incidents from escalating, and assist other UN personnel in the region
If you can not comprehend this, then I sugest you take the issue up in a seperate thread.
So the freedom loving gulf states fund and support extremists like amnesty international etc. Yet they still keep getting all that flack in return.
Oh and these organisations are inspired by these same states?
Well you know the SA funded NGOs and ultra-left media control the world banking system. Of course they are after poor little Israel.Of course they can brainwash huge populations of highly literate people.
If you feel your world view is crashing in front of your eyes. May I sugest you rap more tinfoil on your hat.
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By now the Israeli gov should be well aware of the fact that Sweden´s constitution says no Gov/officals can condemn a article in the press.
So by today demanding exactly that, they have confirmed to me that they only use this incident (which wasn't one until they decided so) to play with their home audience.
Something to disrupt the news, to get people to bitch on Sweden rather than on the Netanyahu gov.
zzzzz
http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.c...on_at_huma.php
As to the rest of your post - whatever. There is ample evidence to the collusion of arab regimes and come of the more extrime NGOs. Further, it is hypociritcal to deny, that media in Europe is openly hostile to, rather then critical of, Israel which goes a long way to explain the public opinion on the continent. Furthermore, I am of an opinion that historic bias plays a role in all this. You believe otherwise - good for you. I am sure you also believe that the organ harvesting story needs further investigation.
Am I missing something?
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