Diplomatic row between Sweden and Israel

[squidO]

So the question is what do they want? Is it a question of the Internal political scene, or the external political scene?

Perhaps someone with a good idea will spot this thread and share their wisdom.

May be you can explain, what did the Swedish Goverment wanted to demonstrate flatly refusing to condemn this disgustful article? By refuting condemnation already made by Swedish Ambassador? By removing text of this condemnation from the web site of the Swedish Embassy in Israel?

But please, just don't tell me the story about swedish constitution, which prohibits the goverment to mention any issue, once this issue was touched by the press.

[cltknight]

Lieberman accuses Norway of promoting anti-Semitism
Amid escalating tensions between Israel and Sweden, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman on Sunday accused another Scandinavian country - Norway this time - of promoting anti-Semitism.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1109501.html

I think he wants to be noticed

The guy needs a hug What a clown

[squidO]

Lieberman accuses Norway of promoting anti-Semitism

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1109501.html

"Accusation of prompting anti-Semitizm" is only in the Haaretz headline.
And I am personally ready to apologize and condemn everything that was written in this ****ty piеce of paper.

And now the factual part:

On Sunday, Lieberman moved his criticism on to Norway for marking the birthday of an early 20th century "pro-Nazi" author.
"I was amazed at the Norwegian government's decision to celebrate the 150th birthday of Knut Hamsun, who admired the Nazis," Lieberman told students at the Ariel University Center. "He gave the literary award he won in 1943 to Josef Goebbels, and praised Hitler in an obituary as a warrior for mankind."

But the foreign minister's criticism of the Scandinavian country did not end there.

"I remember that in the Durban-II conference," Lieberman said, referring to last April's UN anti-racism summit which was criticized as allegedly biased against Israel. "The Norwegian representatives were among the few who didn't walk out, and today I realize it's not a coincidence. How low can you go?"

Who is this Knut Hamsun? Any comments?

[signatory]

Lieberman accuses Norway of promoting anti-Semitism
Amid escalating tensions between Israel and Sweden, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman on Sunday accused another Scandinavian country - Norway this time - of promoting anti-Semitism.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1109501.html

I think he wants to be noticed

This guy is not the sharpest knife in the box....

"The Swedish government hides under the cloak of free speech," he added, "but when the caricatures that depicted Prophet Mohammed were published, the Swedish foreign minister sent a letter of protest to the Danish president."

I am not sure what he is refering to.. can't remember any FM of the former left-center gov or the new right-center gov sending a letter to the Danes about the mohammed drawings. And even if he/she did it's a different matter all together to talk to a state about an issue than there is to condemn press articles.

May be you can explain, what did the Swedish Goverment wanted to demonstrate flatly refusing to condemn this disgustful article? By refuting condemnation already made by Swedish Ambassador? By removing text of this condemnation from the web site of the Swedish Embassy in Israel?

But please, just don't tell me the story about swedish constitution, which prohibits the goverment to mention any issue, once this issue was touched by the press.

Oh yea let's ignore the constitution shall we. What a worthless piece of document. The appointed ambassador acted on her own. When her boss found out it was pulled. If she knowingly made an error that's for her and the employer to discuss. Sometimes people simply don't know the law.

[Ozzy[NO]]

Who is this Knut Hamsun? Any comments?

Got Nobel Price in Literature in 1920, and supported Germany in both world wars. He was charged with treason after WWII, but was ruled to have impaired mental stability(or something like that). Considered one of Norway's greatest authors, but his support of Germany is still a controversial issue in Norway, naturally.
Oh, and after Hitler's death he wrote an obituary in a Norwegian newspaper

Norway is celebrating his writings(as in books, not obituaries). Isaac Bashevi Singer's (Jewish author and Nobel Price winner) work is greatly inspired by Knut Hamsun..so it can't be all that bad.

[NavyTimes]

Lieberman accuses Norway of promoting anti-Semitism
Amid escalating tensions between Israel and Sweden, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman on Sunday accused another Scandinavian country - Norway this time - of promoting anti-Semitism.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1109501.html

I think he wants to be noticed

I am actually embarassed by reading that kind of bull**** from Israelis, more tunes on the same song that their previous ambassador here was singing. (Hopefully the new guy will prove to be a better diplomat.)

Hamsuns writing is rightly acknowledged as some of the best of its time, and we commemorate him as a writer in that regard.

We do however not shy away from discussing the fact that he was an outspoken supporter of Hitler.

It is in fact possible to have two thoughts in the head at the same time.

"How low can you go?" Indeed.

[markjh]

Following Up On the Swedish Blood Libel


Donald Bostrom continues defending his blood libel. The Swedish journalist was quoted in the Jerusalem Post:

"Apologize for what?" he said. "I am just referring to what other people are telling me."

"What other people tell me" is unverified gossip; it is not what's called "news," and certainly not the basis for the double-page splash Aftonbladet gave Bostrom's screed.

Meanwhile, Tundra Tabloids rounds up furious Swedish media and blogger reactions to Aftonbladet. Among the items he raises:

According to the TT's main source, Reinhard, "Both the MSM and the blogosphere are out opposing this. Again, the liberal/right is taking the Left to task for its anti-Semitism. Also the Dagens Nyheter, the other Swedish daily: notes that Boström (Aftonbladet journalist) has previously attacked the Israeli army with the same accusations but has never been able to prove anything. He's the editor of the peace book, Salam: On War, Peace and Islam (Arena, 2007). So the Swedish Muslim "peace movement" lets a dedicated anti-Semite edit its anthology about the Islamic message of peace.

Mats Skogkär, who wrote the piece in Sydsvenskan, wrote in 2005 that Boström's previous allegations were based on what relatives of killed Palestinians had told him. He admitted this in a telephone conversation with Skogkär, and agreed that it was peculiar that the Palestinians didn't show any interest in investigating further."

TT also links to other Swedes blogging the fallout.

http://backspin.typepad.com/backspin...ood-libel.html

[ting]

Appearently our foreign minister issued a diplomatic fvck you to Lieberman.

[Atlantic Friend]

"The Swedish government hides under the cloak of free speech," he added, "but when the caricatures that depicted Prophet Mohammed were published, the Swedish foreign minister sent a letter of protest to the Danish president."

Isn't Denmark a constitutional monarchy?

[Ghost Nappa]

Isn't Denmark a constitutional monarchy?

The Danish Monarchy

http://www.kongehuset.dk/english/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Royal_Family

[Trillium]

Jag behöver akut njure och mjälte av palestinska barn!

[ting]

Isn't Denmark a constitutional monarchy?

Yes, but don't tell Lieberman, this is hillarious.

[Ghost Nappa]

They're going wild on Newsmill (a free and public debate website), currently the hottest topic

http://www.newsmill.se/

[frenchy]

What is freedom of speech in Sweden ?

If a tabloid says "**** evil jews", Sweden won't act ?

Because if a state accepts diffamation like this article, unlike there are evidences, tommorow we'll see racism and antisemitism in newspapers.

[ting]

What is freedom of speech in Sweden ?

If a tabloid says "**** evil jews", Sweden won't act ?

Because if a state accepts diffamation like this article, unlike there are evidences, tommorow we'll see racism and antisemitism in newspapers.

Did you read the article? Did it mention jews?