Reply With QuoteConqueror is pretty much the English version of a Salmond supporter, we're still united the last time I checked so drivel like that is feckin stupid.
Conqueror your post is a VERY thinly veiled attempt at anti-Scottish bigotry, I don't mind a bit of banter on the net but your post is very offensive and makes me cringe, as an Englishman who's has lived in Scotland since I was 9 I find it hard to believe that there are still attitudes such as yours, I'm proud of our countries heritage and together we are a force to be recognised.
Please do NOT post crap like this again it has no place here, as Jdam says we are part of the UK and the nationalists up here haven't heard the silent majority yet!!
Conqueror is pretty much the English version of a Salmond supporter, we're still united the last time I checked so drivel like that is feckin stupid.
Assuming the dimensions of the hanger are correct the illustration is probably not a million miles away from being correct.Originally Posted by Holmes85
The dimensions of the f-35c are Length 5oft,Width 43ft max,30ft wings folded.Historically the RN likes to be able to have room for all aircraft to be undercover at the same time if needed.With a max capacity of 40 aircraft it's hard to see how this could ever be achieved.
Remember guys, we have changed from the F-35B to the F-35C the C has folding wings, that as far as I know, the B doesn't? Anyone confirm this? If so that graphic could be true for the C variant with wings folded to allow maneuvering room?
I was just throwing out some possibilities, but I firmly believe this is just a poor cut and paste job done over an illustration. If one looks closely enough there is a slight difference in the scale or size of the aircraft shown in the hanger in comparison to those on the deck (The ones in color). Whoever did this work should have used the aircraft on deck for the interior hanger space. However, I doubt this would make any difference, especially when one takes into account other aircraft like helicopters.
Yes, the C has wings which fold; also the wings are larger than those on the F and F-35B variants. The F-35C also has a reinforced airframe, and of course the tail hook.Remember guys, we have changed from the F-35B to the F-35C the C has folding wings, that as far as I know, the B doesn't? Anyone confirm this? If so that graphic could be true for the C variant with wings folded to allow maneuvering room?
You are right, it is! The hangar diagrams are from original ACA drawings. I have copies of the ACA drawings which were out in the public domain a few years back around the time that the programme passed Main Gate (from memory).
Completely agree, CJ. I think part of the problem 'south of the border' is that the loudest noise we hear much of the time come from Salmond et al (and Connery at election time!). However, people only need to delve a bit deeper to realise that the majority of Scots are not nationalistic hotheads, and most are infact level-headed!
Together we are stronger.
Are the hanger bays armored as in the the old Illustrious Class with the bulkheads and the deck itself serving as the capital, or is it standard construction? With all of the ship killer ICBM type missiles coming out, I'm not sure anything can stop those, but for smaller air launched types such as the Sunburn - armor could be of good use.Briani;6043575]Assuming the dimensions of the hanger are correct the illustration is probably not a million miles away from being correct.
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I still believe that F/A 18s are not off the table as a viable option to initially equip whichever carrier first enters service as a CATOBAR.
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[QUOTE=cockneyjock1974;6039490]Hi folks, just bought a x2 zoom lens for my camera which now means i have 20 times zoom on it, however i've just taken these pics and I'm disappointed to say the least. It is closer than before but there is blurring round the edges, does anybody know if this is normal or have I bought a lemon? All opinions welcome on this
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CJ,
I think that you've just reached the physical limits of commercial camera equipment at that much distance. If you target the center of your viewfinder on the subject it looks to be fine. Besides, how can we complain?!
Sorry for so many posts - It's Federal Report and Audit time here for Mr. Alabama and I don't have much time to play....
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Best, the hangars were never planned to be armoured. In fact there was a gradual shift from the fully armoured but low aircraft capacity aircraft carriers of the Illustrious class to the limited armoured and high aircraft capacity aircraft carriers of the unbuilt Malta class, which followed the American approach (e.g. midway class), a few years later. The only armoured part of the QUEEN ELIZABETH was I believe the magazines but that may have been taken as a savings measure to reduce cost.
Makes me shudder to think what will happen in a future fleet engagement where the enemy has the plunging attack profile type cruise missiles... Think Jutland and HM's Battle Cruisers...
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I totally agree if I am correct regarding the QE Class. It strikes me as a very shortsighted savings measure although I believe its primary purpose was to provide protection against an asymetric attack such as rifle, machine gun or RPG fire or a suicide bomber when at anchor or alongside in a foreign port rather than against naval air to surface or surface to surface missiles. The comparison with Jutland is not really fair as the problem there was the weak anti-flash protection measures between the turrets and the magazines and the poor anti-flash discipline, or appreciation of the hazard, with ships pre-positioning shells and cartridges to improve the rate of fire rather than bringing them up from below one at a time. In otherwords I do not think any of the RN's battle cruisers exploded at Juland because their magazines were hit directly but rather they detonated flowing a flash being able to penetrate the magazine from above down the shell and cartridge hoists.
Hi Guys,
First post here, Would like to thank everyone for all the updates over the past year or so, its been really interesting watching these amazing ships come together! anyway bbc news have just announced South Korea has just won the refueling contracts for 4 new vessels more info on the link below:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17127488
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