Reply With QuoteDo you think that ACA is having a temporarily lock down on posting photo's while they reviewing what is posted and when and how?
noting that Portsmouth site cam has not been updated weekly lately
Those dates were prior to the review of the Astute Class build. The new in-service dates are as follows:Originally Posted by cyrilranch
Ambush - 2013 (before the current delays for her going to sea)
Artful - 2015
Audacious - 2018
Anson - 2020
Boat 6 - 2022
Boat 7 - 2024
http://www.publications.parliament.u...11125w0001.htm
Therefore, the RN will be down to 5 boats at various times whilst waiting for one of the Astutes to be devilvered
Do you think that ACA is having a temporarily lock down on posting photo's while they reviewing what is posted and when and how?
noting that Portsmouth site cam has not been updated weekly lately
Nope its late July chances are those responsible are on holiday at the moment, we'll have to wait and see as bits progress and if updates are not appearing.
Take it CJ theres not much sign of any movement on block CB02c as yet ?
No nothing so far Geoff I honestly thought it would be done by now, there must be a back log with the welding or something.
Cheers CJ, i take it the conditions are OK as i suppose they won't lift if the winds up, still they have done well so far and there is alot of welding needed on the recent blocks so it will go on sooner or later as we don't have exact details of their assembly schedule and what margins they have.
I do envy you C.J.
Getting to see the progress on a daily basis.
Dont mate I'm usually working anyway
Here is the view I've got just now from my local boozer
One of the Pompy CCTVs has updated!!
19 July -
26 July -
Moet and Chandon champagne at the local boozer, someone has a good life CJ.
Back on topic is there any word on when the bridge tower is being shipped up?
I guest there is someone who is not on Hoilday and works Sunday EveningOne of the Pompy CCTVs has updated!!
19 July -
26 July -
I don't suppose there is a great rush for it at present as it can't be fitted till the all CB02 blocks have been welding into the place, then the sponsons and fwd gas turbines.
I noticed when they did the TV bit from the pompey yard when the switch was announced that they filmed inside the bridge and it does look like a great deal of the kit was being installed, so given the level of out-fitting in advance i suspect they will only move it outdoors and ship it when they are ready to fit it. Watch out for them painting the island and sealing it up ready for its sea journey.
Haha if you saw the punters you would think differently, I took that picture for a reason but didn't follow up on it due to the majesty of alcoholMoet and Chandon champagne at the local boozer, someone has a good life CJ.
Back on topic is there any word on when the bridge tower is being shipped up?
See the cruise ship in the background, that's usually the closest large ships can get to Rosyth because of the rail bridge. Now to put things into perspective QE's mast height according to Beedall including sensors is 47 metres. The height of the rail track on the bridge is 47.8 metres, so even though the mast is ment to be retractable it's going to be dictated by the tide, tight or what !!
Haha if you saw the punters you would think differently, I took that picture for a reason but didn't follow up on it due to the majesty of alcohol
See the cruise ship in the background, that's usually the closest large ships can get to Rosyth because of the rail bridge. Now to put things into perspective QE's mast height according to Beedall including sensors is 47 metres. The height of the rail track on the bridge is 47.8 metres, so even though the mast is ment to be retractable it's going to be dictated by the tide, tight or what !!
Hahaha, PUNTERS ! We all thought it was an extension of the conservative club !
As one famous scotsman once said, if the dimensions are out on the carriers it will be 'squeaky bum' time when they sail down towards open water.
On another note, it was interesting to see the RAF point of view posted the other day re the F35, and in particular the A variant. Apart from the selfishness that came across with the out dated comment on 'if it drives on land its the army, if its on water it's the navy, and if it flys its the RAF'. I think we should acknowledge the fact because of that attitude, we are where we are today. The FAA deserves squadrons of its own, and in particular, naval aviation is a completely different animal to that possessed by the raf. I recall a conversion with some american aviators 20 years ago from both the USAF and the USN. They were in complete agreement that aviation is aviation, however the USAF PILOT said that carrier flying is not the same as airfield to airfield flying without pointing out the obvious, and he followed that up with saying that carrier aviation should be conducted by naval aviators ! Wonder how that would sit with our raf friends???
I must admit out biggest problem isnt necessarily getting the kit, ok so it maybe, but our biggest is the inter forces rivarly. Once we get over ourselves and realise that each branch of the armed forces does very unique roles, the better we will be for it.
Agree once the RAF have control of the aircraft it will be hard to get them onboard. (see Joint Farce Harrier) The talk of basing them at RAF Marham, which is a long way from Portsmouth where the ships will be based is also worrying. This 60/40 split that keeps being mentioned works out at around 19 F-35B for the FAA. Would like to see those 19 at RNAS Yeovilton, but can only hope.
A more realistic split would be two large squadrons one FFA one RAF each of 16 aircraft (32) with 6 in the US training requirement and 10 as attrition spares. Then review the total once PoW is commissioned with another two FAA and RAF squadrons.
I think the LM ceremony summed it up perfectly for me lads, 2 RAF representatives and 1 RN. With the alleged 60:40 split allocation that means 19 JSF's for the RN and 29 for the RAF. I must admit the 2 RAF lads posts were very interesting and I enjoyed them a lot.
QEC bud, your post reminded me of the time in May when I was in Italy talking to a USAF guy from Aviano AFB. He hadn't a Scooby doo about carrier aviation, apart from the USN has Hornets. Even when we had steam catapult carriers the RAF were involved in some way, a small example was that the divert base for too many bolters was RAF St Mawgan, not to mention that the RAF had pilots on HMS Ark Royal IV as well.
Too add gravitas to the situation, even though the RN will have it's own fixed wing aircraft and pilots, they are still going to be interlinked with the RAF in some way, it's unavoidable i'm afraid.
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