Thread: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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    cockney
    I think the building you are talking about is part of the Qinetiq site


    seen at the bottom left of the photo on the jutout

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    There are a couple of excellent articles on CVF and F35C in January's edition of 'Desider' :-

    http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/EDEB4...44_Jan2012.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by danim View Post
    cockney
    I think the building you are talking about is part of the Qinetiq site


    seen at the bottom left of the photo on the jutout
    This is an absolutely brilliant pic in so many ways, Firstly your correct the Qinetiq building is in my line of site when taking pics, however this picture gives a great insight into what we've been talking about for the last couple of days. Where illustrious is berthed is the fit out pier I was talking about, this is where QE will be at the end of 2013. Also what a great pic of the Zhen hua with goliath on it it really captures the scale of things especially when you compare it to Illustrious there.

    I take it seeing as your about 15 miles away from Rosyth in sunny Livi, you will be there for the launch?

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    I will be more than that, I have an email ready to send a month before the floatout which will get me in Rosyth next to the carrier during the float out, probably with the sea cadets
    And for the photo all Id one was searched google for images of Qinetiq rosyth although I do have quite a few photos of rosyth dockyard if I can find them but I do have this screenshot plus a 3d model of roysth naval base as seen below


    also unrelated to the CVF I do have an entire album on photobucket of RN ships that were at portsmouth for Navy Days 08 (I think) which include images of the hanger of Lusty
    and of the flight deck
    http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s...007/RoyalNavy/
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    I'm just seeing random coding at the end of the post there....

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    I have edited it now, the link was not working properly due to photobucket adding a space to the hyperlink

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    Also I was able to find an email that I was sent back in 2010 concerning HMS QE
    Daniel,

    Thank you for your e-mail dated 10 August 2010, which asked for details of the launch of HMS Queen Elizabeth.

    On current plans, HMS Queen Elizabeth will enter service in 2016. She will be officially launched at least 2 years before this date as she will undergo testing and sea trials prior to entering service with the Royal Navy.

    It is too early to give specific launch details, so I would advise you contact us nearer the time when we may be able to provide further information on public attendance. You may also be interested in the new Aircraft Carrier Alliance website which can be found at the following link:

    http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.co.uk

    Hope this helps,

    Carl
    and that is from the Capital Ships Secretariat at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonas View Post
    Sorry if you think I am sniping at you personaly old man,I'm not.

    It's just that with so many rumours and disinformation going around,and my deeply held distrust of media outlets I am loath to believe anything that issues from that source.

    I am I know going against the flow of the tide,but I will hold out for QE to be converted during build,if I am proven wrong I will grovel profusely.

    All the best,and keep on digging for any news.
    Don't worry about it, I think I may have overreacted. I need to redevelop my thick forum skin, I've only just recovered from a friends birthday night out in Edinburgh!

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    Parliamentary answers for Thursday 12 Jan 2012:-

    HMS Queen Elizabeth

    Mr Ellwood: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence when he expects sea trials for HMS Queen Elizabeth to commence; and if he will make a statement. [88812]

    Peter Luff: The contractor-based sea trials programme will be reviewed along with the in service dates for both carriers, as part of our conversion investigations which are due to conclude at the end of this year.



    I find this answer very interesting,althought he is sticking to the old story in regards to the conversion,notice he now says quote ' along with the in service dates for 'both carriers'

    Does this mean a decision has been made to keep both ?

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    @QEClassCarriers - Next big lift - approx 350t - this weekend. Sponson SP06b. Currently attached to Goliath and being prepped.


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    @QEClassCarriers - Next big lift - approx 350t - this weekend. Sponson SP06b. Currently attached to Goliath and being prepped.

    Its still being prepped I'm afraid. No movement as of yet however there is still 3 hours of daylight left! Damn it's a port sponson.

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    From Philip Hammond

    On the aircraft carriers and Carrier Strike:


    “We are committed to purchasing the carrier-variant [of the F35] and the regeneration of our carrier strike force is at the heart of our defense strategy. We believe it will bring a big gain for NATO and potentially be a big relief to U.S. efforts in the European sphere. We’ve worked with the French to ensure that we will have a European carrier capability [that’s] always available. But of course, we are concerned that any slippage in production or any reduction in U.S. numbers will have an impact [on cost] and with budgets very tight, we’ll be watching very close any movement in the predicted unit costs.”


    Regarding the risk of impacts of US spending cuts on the F35C needs of the UK, after the meeting with Panetta and relative discussions and agreements:


    “What I’ve heard today is reassuring on that score,”
    “We’ve had a confirmation of an in-service date [by 2018] for the carrier variant.”
    He said he doesn’t see anything that would “drive a significant increase in unit cost either”, which is easily the most important thing. It appears that the US will in fact delay the purchase of 120 or more of the 423 F35 airplanes they planned to buy in the 2013 - 2017 timeframe. For now at least, it only is a delay, and the planned numbers stand.
    Pentagon officials also expressed recognition that such programs are crucial to their allies, Hammond noted.


    “If we’re going to have more programs in the future where we’re working collaboratively across a number of nations, then it’s very important that people can be confident that things that happen domestically politically or budgetarily won’t undermine those programs or undermine the position of the allies.”

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    Nice spot SDL, kinda had a feeling they would complete that side of the ship 1st, looking at that pic the sponson does look different from the rest.

    I see David Downs blog has been updates again

    http://www.theengineer.co.uk/blog/flight-deck/1011396.article

    The forward end is progressing well at Appledore (for the POW)
    The front of the QE (bow) was delivery really early as well, why are they construction it so far in advance of the rest of the ship
    ?

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    A bit OT but related in a larger sense.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,5991473.story

    I can easily see a QE class led strike group involved with this... In particular because they are smaller and the bigger USN CVs could provide CAP/CSAR/AEW/ etc for the entire Task Force leaving the QE to do what it was designed for - launch a full complement of strike aircraft without worrying about the ancillary functions.

    Best
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    Another photo tweeted by the QE Twitter account.....


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