another pic of LB05
too big to post on here for me.
How things have change, take your eye off the aca website for one minute and they update it!
cyrilranch if they are not old pictures I would say those bits are the top of the island, so yea it will be the bit were the exhaust are, they are built upside down.
Interesting... Although the press has put out that the USN is sending 2 carriers to the 5th Fleet / Persian Gulf Region (Lincoln and Enterprise) to replace the Stennis - look at the count of deployed carriers and where they're being assigned - If Big E is on the way, that would mean that there are FOUR CSGs already in the region or headed that way...
Also, at least one ESG is there with others available. I'll bet at least 2 more are close by. I wonder which group has Daring with it? The Argyll is with the Lincoln.
[QUOTE=USS Alabama;5990416]Good points Jdam, you're right about the EMALS too, however, I still think if the government truly had to pull out the stops, I'm confident that British industry would deliver. It's a matter of political will versus geo-political need - the curves haven't intersected yet"
"I don't see any problem with EMALS delivery times,the first system is already being delivered to the US carriers in build and an agreement has been signed that the second system is for the UK CVF. GA has confirmed they have received an order for the UK and are starting on production"
Two T23's will be of immense value in the Gulf as first rate anti submarine vessels they are some of the best,the waters out there are difficult for anti submarine ops what with the different thermal layers so these ships will be heavily used.
Although only Westminster has the latest Sonar type 2087 fitted,Argyle will still be an important player if the S**T hits the fan.
If Westminster also has a Merlin embarked she will be even more effective,only three ships but of critical importance.
IMO they need to just come out and decide to fit the first set to the QE, do the necessary modifications, and stop that " Sir Reginald Howard ap Dither" routine that they're spouting now. Call it the "national security trumps politics" policy... Hmmph - right..."I don't see any problem with EMALS delivery times,the first system is already being delivered to the US carriers in build and an agreement has been signed that the second system is for the UK CVF. GA has confirmed they have received an order for the UK and are starting on production"
Could happen... maybe...
Daring will be an outstanding anti-air and surface warfare asset as well.Two T23's will be of immense value in the Gulf as first rate anti submarine vessels they are some of the best,the waters out there are difficult for anti submarine ops what with the different thermal layers so these ships will be heavily used.
The Iranians do have enough subs to cover the Strait, not very good ones, but if they just sit quiet and play rocky outcropping in pre-selected locations to cover the area, they could get in a lucky shot. However, I'm of the opinion that the USN and possibly the RN and MN have boats in the area doing the same and that in a shooting war, the Iranian Navy and RG naval forces will have a "short and exciting life"... I would still be the last to rule out the possibility of them doing some serious damage to - if not outright sinking - a high value naval target though. Never underestimate a cornered foe if you don't want to suffer the consequences...
I agree Daring will be a great asset,but I would imagine that with the anti-air and surface assets on hand to the US they will be able to give good cover.
Pity we don't actualy know the capabilities of the Sampson radar,we hear from the grapevine that it is a world beater so hopefully it can be put to good effect as a long range sensor able to act as an early warning system.
What with the US Hawkeyes we should be able to intercept any hostile aircraft before it can do any damage.
I am still more concerned with the submarine threat,conventional boats are notorious to detect,even more so in this envireonment.
Luckily and hopefully after all the years we have had in the gulf,we should have those waters charted to the n'th degree and all known ambush spots should be covered.
I think we have great conventional assets in the area, however it's the asymetric nature of the Iranian threat that we should be concerned about. Lots of small attack boats, submarines, and cruise missiles swarming a targeted task group - very difficult to counter. Hopefully we've been searching for those hiding spots they have them stashed at. We will probably combine a conventional first strike against command and control targets, military concentrations, vessels, communications infrastructure, and leadership sites with SOF attacks delivered by sea, air, and with already infiltrated assets against missile launchers, small craft, and surveillance systems.
Look for it to get ugly though, the Iranians aren't push-overs, they aren't Arabs, and they have a long military tradition. It will be the quality of their leadership, training, and planning that will determine how effective they'll be in a conflict against the West. I think we'll be in for a few nasty surprises - perhaps right here in our backyards and certainly against facilities within the region. In the end though, Iran has just so much infrastructure that can be destroyed without the entire country's economy collapsing in a heap so it behooves them to talk tough but not pull the trigger...
The Daring and the Westminster in the same area, The Darings Sampson is insanely awesome and if she's been fitted with the command systems that she was meant to get fitted at launch (which I'm fairly confident she has had) then she'll be a huge asset down there and the Westminster, she's got one hell of a sonar and she's insanely quiet (she does indeed have a Merlin as well). Don't know as much about the Argylls setup, but those ships are certainly amongst the worlds best (although I do have an obvious soft spot for the Westminster ).
I agree though, the Iranians are not push overs and I certainly hope that there is no confrontation down there.
I'm wondering how the events over the last year (Arab spring) and increasing tensions with Iran as well as Argintena rallying for support over the Falklands soveriegnty will effect the next SDR, more so with the planning for the new carriers.
The way things used to be and should not have demised. Plus the opening sequence is from my hometown
I take it if we kept the Ark in the 70's she would still have been long retired by now?