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    Seriously you find a whole lot more expertise on this forum than in this think tank.
    Any think tank that actually calls itself such is most likely amateurish anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCR View Post
    Seriously you find a whole lot more expertise on this forum than in this think tank.
    Any think tank that actually calls itself such is most likely amateurish anyway.
    I'm not sure I follow mate? Their's is, in my view, a pertinent point of view. I would respectfully suggest that the concept of cross decking on a long term basis, and sharing carriers, is something of a pipe dream. It is true that converting a carrier from one aircraft type to another is a time consuming process. Putting F35 on a carrier and operating it long term is integrating a weapon system. You don't just build a big ship and fly aircraft off it as if it is some airfield. A Carrier and its aircraft are part of a weapon system as a whole. One cannot operate effectively without the other. Phoenix makes some very good points about weapons storage, security, equipment storage, political considerations and strategic thinking. These cannot be overlooked.

    I would also respectfully suggest that you look at articles such as this one.

    http://www.phoenixthinktank.org/2012...erations-work/

    Please note the Author. These are not amateurs.

    EDIT - Also, please note that the author on my previous post was Cdr Nigel "Sharkey" Ward RN. Google him... He's DEFINITELY not an amateur!

    Cheers...
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    hi guys

    Hay cj i think you could be right,had a look on twitter & ACA but alas no new updates.

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    Both bits of LB05 loaded and ready to sail on Sunday about 5.30pm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by serge 750 View Post
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    Hay cj i think you could be right,had a look on twitter & ACA but alas no new updates.
    Hey bud, I've been having a look at the far left one and I think that might be either one of CB05/CB05A/CB06, my reasonings are that it's angled at one end and flush at the other, plus it's big enough as well.

    PS I am biker

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    CJ 3245

    PS I am biker

    Well done CJ.

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    hi guys

    Good photo briani,i like the way LB02 is in the backround teasing us ! looks awsome in red.

    Well done CJ

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    http://bfbs.com/news/england/new-car...ion-56849.html

    1st look inside the island of the QE.

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    hey guys,
    I just wanted to say that if the cdg deck had to have a 4m deck extension (it's so small you can't remark it on the pictures), it's because if an e-2c catches the last wire, in a force 5/6 sea, it could be dangerous when the e-2 has to turn (because her front landing gear is further away from the hook than other planes, it takes a few more meters than a rafale)

    and until I have proof that an F-35 can't land on the cdg, i don't thrust those infos because the rafale has been built to be able normally to land with 26T on the cdg even if it isn't use or even tested and as today it's still already 22+T

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    hi guys

    Nice video find jdam1,good to see inside, enjoyed the interview with chris parry especially when he mentioned shortchanging the country if we dont get cats n traps.

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    Nice pic Briani and cheers mate same as you 3rd attempt, cheers too serge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdam1 View Post
    http://bfbs.com/news/england/new-car...ion-56849.html

    1st look inside the island of the QE.
    Just watched it great spot Jdam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdam1 View Post
    http://bfbs.com/news/england/new-car...ion-56849.html

    1st look inside the island of the QE.
    Thanks for posting the video, Jdam1!

    Also just wanted to crow that just one week ago (page 210) I suggested that the MOD should buy 2x squadrons worth of Super Bugs, then low and behold none other than Rear Adm Chris Parry just said exactly the same thing in this video!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by serge 750 View Post
    hi guys

    Nice video find jdam1,good to see inside, enjoyed the interview with chris parry especially when he mentioned shortchanging the country if we dont get cats n traps.
    Thanks if he suggested the F-35C as well kind of makes you wonder who is suggesting the F-35B

    Quote Originally Posted by Pymes75 View Post
    Thanks for posting the video, Jdam1!

    Also just wanted to crow that just one week ago (page 210) I suggested that the MOD should buy 2x squadrons worth of Super Bugs, then low and behold none other than Rear Adm Chris Parry just said exactly the same thing in this video!!!
    Buy some F-18s, I don’t think that will happen because of costs but we could lease some from the US navy and we will not need to worry what to do with them later.

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