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    'The ship is name for the title and position'
    That is what I said!

    Sandhurst eh,now that is one upmanship of the first order,or perhaps second to BRNC. Sorry just couldn't resist it.

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    Does someone who has gone through Sandhurst really have a nick like 'CarrierFan2006' ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarrierFan2006 View Post
    Finally, I would like to add that I am very well aware of history and tradition. I learned it well at Sandhurst.
    Quote Originally Posted by jonas View Post
    Sandhurst eh,now that is one upmanship of the first order,or perhaps second to BRNC. Sorry just couldn't resist it.
    Quote Originally Posted by CatpainSlackbladder View Post
    Does someone who has gone through Sandhurst really have a nick like 'CarrierFan2006' ?
    "at Sandhurst" ... ... ... that can be interpreted a number of different ways.

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    From defence-update.com

    Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) successfully completed the first launch of a T-45C Goshawk from the NAVAIR Lakehurst, N.J. test site on June 1, As part of these ongoing compatibility testing, twelve successful launches were made June 1 and 2. Few days later, on June 8, the system performed the first launch of a C-2A Greyhound as part of the system’s ground testing. The Greyhound was launched 18 times over a wide range of aircraft weights June 8 and 9 as part of ongoing aircraft compatibility testing. EMALS built by General Atomics is a complete launch system designed for Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) and all future Ford-class aircraft carriers will replace the steam catapult system which has been in use for more than 50 years. EMALS is lighter, requires less maintenance, and provides increased efficiency and more accurate end-speed control.
    EMALS technology was fundamentally proven by the U.S. Navy in 2004 using a full-scale, half-length prototype, where more than 1,500 launches and armature maneuvers were conducted. Since 2008, component testing on the shipboard design has been underway, including full scale/full power tests of all components. A full scale test site was established at Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst, N.J., in 2010.

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    Good news for GA they haven’t launch an aircraft since December (I believe), nice to see it up and going again, its also nice to see they are not fanny about with the testing and launching lots of aircraft



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    http://defense-update.com/wp/20110616_emals.html

    Also here is the link as it has a couple of pics
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    How to land on an aircraft carrier without jump jets



    Quote Originally Posted by British Forces News
    Work has started on how to fly fast jets from Britain’s next generation aircraft carriers. The decision was taken late last year to fly conventional catapult launched planes from the ships instead of more expensive harrier style aircraft that can land vertically. But that has caused all kinds of headaches, and the designers have resorted to a simulator at BAE System's aircraft factory at Warton to sort them out. By the time the Queen Elizabeth class carriers enter service it will be more than four decades since British pilots have operated from a conventional carrier – and that means lots of key skills have been lost in the mists of time.
    Article: British Forces News

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    Defensive time!!!

    I should like to point out that, just because I am ex-Army, doesn't mean I can't admire and be interested in the Royal Navy too, or the RAF for that matter. To my mind, inter-service rivalry only goes as far as Twickenham...! Long gone are the days of such silliness, as each service relies on the other to make up a whole which is greater than the sum of its parts.

    I joined this forum specifically as a fan of the Carrier programme because, every time I Googled for information on something which is a subject of great personal interest from an engineering and military standpoint, I'd end up here, hence my tag! Please don't misunderstand. I love my regiment - The Royal Artillery - and am proud of my small part in its history. However, I can still be a fan of the Royal Navy's new Carriers, because of what they do for the UK's power projection capabilities and our nation's global reputation.
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    Fair do's.... you've served so you're one up on me anyway!

    In the video above - what is that at 1:54? Looks like an RFA tanker?

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    Hi,

    I have a question which many among you may think dumb, but after reading just about everything and its opposing around the 'net, I am left wondering: will both of the UK's new carriers be fitted with catapults? Some time ago I thought that the first one would be used as a helicopter carrier, whereas only the second one would get an actual catapult. But lately I read things hinting at both being CATOBAR-ready.
    Anyone cares to clarify this for me please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bve View Post
    Hi,

    I have a question which many among you may think dumb, but after reading just about everything and its opposing around the 'net, I am left wondering: will both of the UK's new carriers be fitted with catapults? Some time ago I thought that the first one would be used as a helicopter carrier, whereas only the second one would get an actual catapult. But lately I read things hinting at both being CATOBAR-ready.
    Anyone cares to clarify this for me please?
    Both will be fitted with catapults and arrestor gear.
    The mass-media will try to convince you otherwise, but if you look directly at the comms coming from Govt ministers, the MoD, and the RN, it is unequivocal; both carriers will be built to a full CATOBAR spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarrierFan2006 View Post
    Defensive time!!!

    I should like to point out that, just because I am ex-Army, doesn't mean I can't admire and be interested in the Royal Navy too, or the RAF for that matter. To my mind, inter-service rivalry only goes as far as Twickenham...! Long gone are the days of such silliness, as each service relies on the other to make up a whole which is greater than the sum of its parts.

    I joined this forum specifically as a fan of the Carrier programme because, every time I Googled for information on something which is a subject of great personal interest from an engineering and military standpoint, I'd end up here, hence my tag! Please don't misunderstand. I love my regiment - The Royal Artillery - and am proud of my small part in its history. However, I can still be a fan of the Royal Navy's new Carriers, because of what they do for the UK's power projection capabilities and our nation's global reputation.
    Carrierfan2006 dont take opinions personally mate we all know why were here 1.Were all military or like myself naval enthusiasts 2.We want to see our nation remain one of the strongest in the world,so as we all know why were here lets enjoy the thread lads

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    I've been looking for information on the MASC (Maritime Airborne Surveillance and Control) programme for a while now and can find relatively little current info, honestly I don't even know if MASC is still running. I know we were almost set to buy some E-2 aircraft in 2001 but that idea died with the selection of STOVL format for the carrier. With it being a CATOBAR carrier now, is it likely we will buy some E-2 Hawkeye aircraft (the E-2D might be a little bit out of our price range, so E-2C would be the purchased version in my opinion) or will we just tart up some Merlins?
    Last edited by imperialman; 06-20-2011 at 03:18 PM. Reason: typo

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    Nobody knows atm. By far the cheaper option is to rip the searchwater radar and the sneaky stuff out of the SK ASaCs and fit them to the now redundant Merlin Mk1's, but it's at the cost of a great deal of capability. I think it would be hard to justify, having gone down the CATOBAR route, not purchasing the Hawkeye. But then again, this is the British Government....

    I suspect you'll have to wait until 2015 for a solid answer, but standby to a few waves of tabloid speculation in the meantime.

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    US airframe - UK electronics or vice versa would be most akin to past UK aircraft programmes. E.g. Douglas Skyraider AEW Radar went into Gannet AEW then that RADAR ended up in Shackleton AEW.
    Phantom F4K/M - US Airframe UK engines
    Hercules C130K - US Airframe UK Avionics

    History repeats itself in UK MOD Procurement circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arfah View Post
    US airframe - UK electronics or vice versa would be most akin to past UK aircraft programmes. E.g. Douglas Skyraider AEW Radar went into Gannet AEW then that RADAR ended up in Shackleton AEW.
    Phantom F4K/M - US Airframe UK engines
    Hercules C130K - US Airframe UK Avionics

    History repeats itself in UK MOD Procurement circles.
    'It will be an off the shelf Hawkeye buy with US electronics and a bloody good job to,at least the yanks will have ironed out any snags and we will know it works.

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