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    My heart sank just then. Good to hear nothing was too badly damaged and business is going on as normal.

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    bit of a shock reading about the fire,im glad nobody was hurt,this may be a silly question but are the lifts going to be transported whole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by serge 750 View Post
    bit of a shock reading about the fire,im glad nobody was hurt,this may be a silly question but are the lifts going to be transported whole?
    Hi serge,

    Thats what I think is going to happen, think i'll email MacTaggart Scott and see if they will tell us what the script is.

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    Hi cockneyjock

    thats a good idea,i would think they would have to transport the first one in next couple of months,i was going to say according to the latest video but since that seems a wee bit inacurate-who knows i wouldnt mind being stuck behind the transporter so i could have a good look.

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    Completely freaked when I heard about the fire, then when I read more into it, realised its not actually that big of a problem. Fires are common occurances on ships at sea (usually most ships have 1-2 fires a year on them), however, they are generaly minor and put out extremely quickly, although the media has a knack of over sentionalising them. In an environment like a dockyard with so much welding going on, it really isn't surprising a small fire like this could happen, more so since many of the compartements on the ship apear to already of been fitted out, meaning more flammable materials are on the ship whilst all this heavy duty welding is taking place. Pretty sure safety procedures will be stepped up now and very happy to hear that the fire was put out swiftly with little damage though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by suricata View Post
    Completely freaked when I heard about the fire, then when I read more into it, realised its not actually that big of a problem. Fires are common occurances on ships at sea (usually most ships have 1-2 fires a year on them), however, they are generaly minor and put out extremely quickly, although the media has a knack of over sentionalising them. In an environment like a dockyard with so much welding going on, it really isn't surprising a small fire like this could happen, more so since many of the compartements on the ship apear to already of been fitted out, meaning more flammable materials are on the ship whilst all this heavy duty welding is taking place. Pretty sure safety procedures will be stepped up now and very happy to hear that the fire was put out swiftly with little damage though!
    I can assure you that fires are NOT common occurences onboard ships,and that no fire onboard is considered minor. The fact is that a fire onboard is one of the things that a seaman dreads the most and is why firefighting drills are carried out on a regular basis.
    Having spent 25yrs at sea I was only involved in two fires onboard,and both of them were on an RFA ammunition ship,one involved an emergency generator catching fire and the other was an electric motor on a forklift that was actually working in an ammunition hold.
    When the alarm goes in a situation like that,believe me the adrenalin starts pumping and all the practice pays off.
    Those fires were out in record time due to the professionalism of the fire fighting teams.
    Rest assured any fire is a problem onboard ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonas View Post
    I can assure you that fires are NOT common occurences onboard ships,and that no fire onboard is considered minor. The fact is that a fire onboard is one of the things that a seaman dreads the most and is why firefighting drills are carried out on a regular basis.
    Having spent 25yrs at sea I was only involved in two fires onboard,and both of them were on an RFA ammunition ship,one involved an emergency generator catching fire and the other was an electric motor on a forklift that was actually working in an ammunition hold.
    When the alarm goes in a situation like that,believe me the adrenalin starts pumping and all the practice pays off.
    Those fires were out in record time due to the professionalism of the fire fighting teams.
    Rest assured any fire is a problem onboard ship.
    I think you misunderstand my point Jonas, I'm fully aware a fire on a ship is in no way a minor thing (having been faced with a few scares myself whilst serving, the scariest been a diesel that was on the verge of blowing a piston head off after someone neglected to replace the seals on the fuel injectors after routine maintenance and I was the lucky sod that was first there!). I was a stoker, and have had my fair share of 'fire dangers' which are ofcourse a far more common occurance than fires themselves which I only luckily experianced once when an electrical cabinet overheated.

    However, the way that this particular fire was portrayed was done in an alarmist way in the headlines. For example, if my toaster catches fire in my house, I wouldn't go around and tell everyone my house caught fire, and this was kind of my point. Perhaps I should not of used the word minor, I think the issue is that when you use the term fire, people immediatly conjure up an inferno in their head, maybe its just a matter of semantics.

    Eitherway, I'm just glad that the inceident was dealt with swiftly and doesn't appear to of caused any significant damage that we are aware of!

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    Exactly Suricata, nothing too serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by ACA Spokeswoman
    "A small piece of equipment was smouldering in an area onboard the Queen Elizabeth carrier mid-section."
    Which is a world apart from the original headlines.

    We've had several fires onboard ships I've been on too. I'm not for a moment suggesting we were ever complacent, but fire is an everyday risk onboard a warship (or indeed merchant ship). I can think of several instances, the worst being onboard Invincible while the safeguard rule was in force. Anyway, these things happen (more rarely than ever, thankfully) and the important thing is that nobody was hurt, and the build can continue unabated.

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    I like everything but the name! lol

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    suricata/happyslapper.

    In the first instance you must remember you are dealing with the media,alarmist headlines sell newspapers it's all part of media pyschology.
    Secondly,do you expect an ' ACA Spokeswoman' to say any other than it was a completely minor incident,I don't think so.

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    Crews said the fire caused "very limited damage but lots of smoke".
    Althought the flames of the "small fire" were put out within an hour, firefighters remained to check the rest of the hull.
    Station manager David Wishart said: "We have been working very hard in the last two to three months with Babcock, the MoD and the security staff at Rosyth to deal with a fire like this. We have a very straightforward procedure in place and today it worked perfectly. I'm very pleased that it went so well.
    "It was a small fire in one of the compartments eight decks down from what will be the flight deck. There was a bit of smoke but there was very limited damage."
    No one has been hurt or had to be rescued from the blaze."

    Further to my last post,please note the discrepencies in statements given by the fire service and a company spokesman.

    Rather than a small piece of equipment smouldering,firefighters state " flames of a small fire were put out within an hour", that is NOT smouldering by any means.

    At least the company's PR system seems to be working well.

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    I hate every society that works on the QE program (except bae) because it's impossible to have any news or photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by the french fries eater View Post
    I hate every society that works on the QE program (except bae) because it's impossible to have any news or photos
    That's why we have forums like these mon ami

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombsaway42 View Post
    I like everything but the name! lol
    And why is that?

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    That's why we have forums like these mon ami
    yes but still it's difficult to have photos from inside the construction site

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