I should admit it was me who saw the image up on the War Machine Facebook page, and knowing that SKB had only given permission for the image to be shown here, I did speak to the page runner. When they started talking about the GUY who had passed it over as HIS own work, I knew then that something was a miss... I should add that the moment the page runner found out there might be a plagiarism issue with the image, he removed it... Though had I known just how big it was going to blow up on FB, I would have handled things differently....
Originally Posted by SKB
Looking forward to the time lapse updates later tonight..
Knickers all in bunches...I hope they're the loving kind.
Thanks for the photos.
The sponsons on the left.
I guess that the one nearest to us in Sp07. I guess this as it has a solid side: for the aircraft lift and it is shorter than the rest: as the bottom is already attached to the ship ready for the GTA.
The other two I presume are the forward and aft sections of Sp08.
What I find interesting about the sponsons is that they have little temporary huts on top of them. Given that they are still there, does this mean that the lifting of any of the structures is not imminent? I notice the lift, or what people guessed to be the lift from the flickr aerial photo, is still where it was with all its guards.
Does anyone have knowledge on when we might expect the delivery of the GTA and the lift of SP07 upper and when SP08 sections will be lifted?
Which bit will come first, SP07 or SP08.
I think its SP09 and 11 that are next to the Babcock shed and your right with the welding tents still on top of them they are going nowhere soon, the one next to them could be the top of SP07 and that will not be going anywhere till the GTA is installed. It should be SP08 or part of it any way that’s lifted next (or has been lifted).
I'd say SP08 would be lifted sooner than SP07 Upper. Because to lift SP07 Upper, you need the aft GTA to be fitted to SP07 Lower. Which is as far as I know, hasn't. And as you'll have noticed from the aerial/helicopter photo of QE, you'll see yellow support brackets waiting on the dockside underneath where SP08 would go.
As for SP08, I'm still uncertain that its one long single block or two smaller aft/fwd blocks. But I would go with the latter pair for weight and mass issues. SP08 as a single block would measure half the length of LB04!!!
The ACA cgi assembly video is notorious for being inaccurate and shows paired blocks as single blocks (see SP06 and SP02!) and has an assembly cycle different to real life.
Incidently, the series of blue huts you see on top of the flightdeck and sponsons actually house a track inside them on the deck. On the track, a robotic welder zips back and forth across the deck doing long continuous welds. The huts are there to give the weld-bots some protection from the climate.
Last edited by SKB; 04-07-2013 at 12:25 PM.
I was just about to say that I noticed from the flickr aerial shot that the supports for SP08 are already in place and so its move must be imminent or has already taken place.
I notice the walkways onto the aft of the ship are still in position too, so there is another reason to not expect Sponsons 08 or 09 to be lifted any time soon.
In regards to SP08, I read on the facebook page that it had been lifted, but I have not seen any other evidence for this.
Looking at last available photo from the ACA page
it looks as though there are a few sponsons around that are no longer in sight.
Maybe there has been a move around and SP08 is now indeed on the ship.
Enigmatically said that SP08 and SP07 forward would be on the move... My guess is that we'll see SP08 first...
EDIT - as I stated earlier... Tonight's Time Lapse update wil be very interesting....
Moving and lifting are different. You can move a block to a dockside position for a later lift. But a straight lift? SP08 is more likely.
Last edited by SKB; 04-07-2013 at 12:39 PM.
Your right about the supports and the walk ways they are a good sign of what’s to be lifted next, which is why I was surprised (happily) when SP07 was to be lifted as well as there doesn’t appear to be much prep work done for it, I assume it’s like the small section of sp01 and will sit on the end of the sponson.
Originally Posted by kevin_bolton15
SDL if trends continue you will be waiting till the earlier hours till the update.
As I was saying, there appears to be 4 or 5 sections.
does anyone know where each bit labelled has been moved to, or if they are indeed sponsons? I presume the two or three sections on the side of the shed are still there.
Last edited by kevin_bolton15; 04-07-2013 at 01:06 PM.
Interestingly most of the welding, and it is indeed a track welder is done from the underside. A final top weld completes the stitch
Originally Posted by SKB
I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to post the latest shot from the time lapse video. When I look at it, it looks like there is a big single sponson next to the shed. This would make 2 sponsons with the 2nd sponson been what I presume to be the upper section of SP07 and is visible in Skca54's picture. Could anyone check this for me?
There maybe a visitor to Rosyth next weekend so that you can compare sizes. Im not going to say anymore than that at this stage.
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