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    Some rebel Philippines troops surrender

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/944475.asp?vts=072720030125


    Rogue Philippine soldiers with red arm bands take up positions in Manila's financial district early Sunday.
    MANILA, Philippines, July 27 — Rebellious soldiers demanding the Philippine government’s resignation stormed a major commercial center in Manila early Sunday and wired it with explosives. Hours later, more than 15 of about 200 soldiers involved in the rebellion surrendered to government troops after the president ordered military and police to suppress the mutineers “immediately.”
    “THEY RETURNED to the control of the military,” Maj. Gen. Emmanuel Teodosio told reporters.
    Radio reports said the soldiers who surrendered walked from the building complex they had seized to a nearby car park, where government troops were waiting. The military said at first that 50 people had surrendered but later lowered the number, and there were believed to be many more still inside.
    With demands that the government resign, troops in camouflage uniforms set up gun posts and rigged explosives at 3 a.m. around the outside of the Glorietta complex, which includes one of the capital’s largest shopping malls.
    The military responded by sending marines to positions nearby. Television footage later showed them shaking hands with some of the rogue officers, raising questions about what government forces would do if ordered to mount an assault.
    Around 10 a.m., seven hours after the takeover began, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo went on national television and set a 5 p.m. deadline for the rebels to surrender.
    “There is absolutely no justification for the actions you have taken,” Arroyo said. “You have already stained the uniform. Do not drench it with dishonor. Your actions are already hovering at the fringes of outright terrorism.”
    Later Sunday, Arroyo declared a nationwide state of rebellion and ordered the military and police to “immediately carry out the necessary actions and measures to suppress and quell the rebellion with due regard to constitutional rights.” The order gives authorities power to carry out arrests without warrants.
    A White House spokesperson told NBC News that the Bush administration has “seen the reports and is monitoring the situation” in Manila.

    REBELS: NO COUP ATTEMPT
    The rebel soldiers pledged to remain. In an earlier statement, they demanded the government resign and said they were prepared to die to force change.


    “We are not attempting to grab power. We are just trying to express our grievances,” Navy Lt. Sr. Grade Antonio Trillanes told reporters on the scene.
    He said that the explosives were for self-defense. “If they try to take us down, we will be forced to use it,” said Trillanes, who is among the officers Arroyo ordered arrested.
    Trillanes claimed to have the support of 2,000 officers and soldiers. Radio reports said about 100 men were involved. They were armed with rifles and wore red arm bands with a symbol of sun rays. A warning shot was fired as a delivery truck approached.
    Unlike the two “people power” revolts that peacefully ousted two presidents in recent years, there appeared to be little public support for the mutiny. The military chief of staff declared loyalty to Arroyo.

    RUMORS IN THE AIR
    Rumors of a coup plot had been spreading for the last week. Arroyo took action Saturday, publicly announcing that she had ordered the military and police to hunt down and “arrest a small band of rogue junior officers and soldiers who have deserted their post and illegally brought weapons with them.”
    The officers responded in a video released just before the takeover, accusing the government of selling arms and ammunition to Muslim and communist rebels, staging recent deadly bombings to justify more aid from the United States, and preparing to declare martial law to stay in power.
    The takeover began hours later. Checkpoints quickly went up around Manila and armored personnel carriers at the gates of the presidential palace were reinforced with more vehicles and elite troops.




    Australian Ambassador Ruth Pearce initially was prevented from leaving a ritzy apartment complex where a number of foreign diplomats live. But all residents were later evacuated, some left carrying children and luggage. Many appeared alarmed as they passed a rebel machine gun outside the building.
    Pearce told reporters everything was “fine” as she emerged hours after the renegade soldiers seized the building.
    Philippine Defense Secretary Angelo Reyes had said two Americans were also trapped in the building but their fate was not immediately known. There was no further information on any held Americans.

    HISTORY OF COUPS
    National Security Adviser Roilo Golez said he hoped for negotiations and a peaceful resolution.
    “We have to be very prudent about this,” he told reporters outside the palace. “This is similar to the 1989 coup attempt.”
    There were several coup attempts against former President Corazon Aquino in the late 1980s by officers complaining about corruption.
    In a 1989 attempt, rebellious troops also occupied the commercial center. They held onto it for several days until they were persuaded to surrender.

    RESIGNATIONS DEMANDED



    In their statement, the rebellious officers called themselves “Soldiers of the Nation” and talked of disillusionment over corruption and favoritism. Soldiers and officers in the past have complained about low pay; the military is poorly equipped and trained, and hampered by budgetary constraints.
    “We demand the resignation of our leaders in the present regime,” the statement said. “We are willing to sacrifice our lives today, to pursue a program not tainted with politicking.”
    Interior Secretary Jose Lina ordered the arrest of Sen. Gregorio Honasan, citing an intelligence report reportedly linking the former army colonel to the mutiny. Honasan denied he had any “influence or control” over the mall takeover.
    Military Chief of Staff Gen. Narciso Abaya said 10 of the wanted officers were from the army and navy - including several captains, the highest rank, mostly from the special operations command.
    Eight served in the fight against Muslim separatists in the country’s troubled south, and most had been decorated for gallantry under fire.



    Arroyo, a 56-year-old economist, has enjoyed generally solid public support and is one of the staunchest U.S. allies in Asia. The United States has been working closely with the 120,000-strong Philippine military, which has been battling Muslim separatists and communist rebels for the last three decades.
    In May, President Bush held a state dinner at the White House for Arroyo, praised her “unwavering” partnership in the war on terrorism. He said he would visit the Philippines, perhaps this fall.
    Earlier Saturday, Manila Archbishop Cardinal Jaime Sin called on Filipinos to be vigilant, saying in an open letter that “credible sources” in the government and military believed that plotters were set on “undermining and if possible overturning even with violence the democratic institutions of our country.”
    As the leader of the Philippines’ powerful Roman Catholic Church, Sin has extensive government and military contacts.
    He played a key role in the “people power” revolt that toppled late dictator Ferdinand Marcos in 1986, and massive anti-corruption protests that forced out President Joseph Estrada in January 2001.

    NBC News’ Kelly O’Donnell at the White House, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.


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    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...d=516&ncid=716

    Philippine Govt. Extends Rebel Deadline


    A group of rebel soldiers walk out of the building they occupied Sunday, July 27, 2003 in the financial district of Makati, Manila as some of them tries to remove their red arm band. Hours after about 200 soldiers occupied the Glorietta center, more than 15 of them surrendered after Arroyo ordered military and police to suppress the mutineers ``immediately.'' Arroyo extended the deadline she gave the soldiers until 7 p.m. (11 a.m. GMT) to surrender. (AP Photo/Aaron Favila)
    MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine government extended a deadline for rebel soldiers to surrender by two hours Sunday, to 7 p.m. (7 a.m. EDT) a govenrnment official said.



    Presidential spokesman Ignacio Bunye did no say why the extension was granted, but he had earlier welcomed an offer by the leaders of the mutiny to negotiate a list of grievances.


    The estimated 150 mutineers are holed up inside an apartment and shopping complex in Manila's financial district that they have rigged with explosives. Several hours after they seized the area early Sunday, about 15 of them surrendered.


    The Glorietta mall complex is home to some of the city's richest people, well heeled expatriates and diplomats. Most residents were evacuated unharmed as hundreds of soldiers loyal to the government poured into the area with heavy arms and tanks.


    The mutineers called for President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (news - web sites) and her government to resign.


    As the standoff moved into stalemate, an angry Arroyo originally gave the mutineers until 5 p.m. (5 a.m. EDT) to give up or face possible attack.


    By sunset at least 18 rebel soldiers had surrendered, as leaders of the uprising said they would stand their ground but called for talks.




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    anyone got anymore pics?

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    Oh HE219, where are you?

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    Rebel soldiers keep a close eye on the street Sunday, July 27, 2003 at the financial district of Makati, Manila. Rebellious soldiers demanding the Philippine government's resignation have occupied an expensive apartment, stormed a major commercial center and wired it with explosives. Hours after about 200 soldiers occupied the Glorietta center, more than 15 of them surrendered after Arroyo ordered military and police to suppress the mutineers ``immediately.'' Arroyo extended the deadline she gave the soldiers until 7 p.m. (11 a.m. GMT) to surrender.(AP Photo/Pat Roque)







    Rebel leader Philippine Navy Lieutenant Senior Grade Antonio Trillanes is interviewed by journalists in a rebel occupied area in the suburban financial district of Makati.(AFP/Romeo Gacad)






    Philippine Army Major Gerard Gambala speaks at a news conference held by rebel Philippine soldiers at the Oakwood Hotel, which they took over before dawn, Sunday, July 27, 2003, in the Makati financial district in Manila, Philippines. Rebel soldiers defied deadlines to surrender Sunday, after seizing an upscale apartment and shopping complex and rigging it with explosives in their push for the government to resign.(AP Photo/Bullit Marquez)























    pic reminds me of the ones from Vietnam



    Checkers anyone?



    Philippine rebel soldiers prepare to wire an explosive at the parking lot of a department store at the financial district of Makati, southeast of Manila, early Sunday July 27, 2003. Dozens of disgruntled soldiers stormed the Makati commercial area in a possible coup attempt against President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (news - web sites). (AP Photo/Bullit Marquez)

    Philippine rogue soldiers with red armbands set up booby traps as they take up positions in Manila's Makati financial district July 27, 2003. The rogue Philippine soldiers, who appeared to be rigging explosives around a shopping mall in Manila, said on Sunday they were not staging a coup. REUTERS/Erik de Castro










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    they looked like they were gonna fight to the death if need be

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    I don't think you'll find many people disagreeing with you Tane
    Was anyone shot?
    No
    Were any shots fired?
    According to the news one warning shot at a delivery truck.
    Was anyone seriously injured?
    Not according to the news
    Did they act in a threatening manner to their fellow soldiers sent to contain them?
    Some people have said they were shaking hands and saluting.
    I think the people they 'held' would of probably thought they were regular army there to conduct a legal operation.

    Mutiny however, is still mutiny. I don't have much doubt that the leaders, if not more of them are either going to prison for a long time or are going to be shot.

    It did however, turn out the best way possible
    They were well armed, trained and setting up prepared positions to defend themselves, as well as the fact you've got almost 300 of them.
    What-ever the Army did, it would of turned a sizeable chunk of the Financial district of Manila into one big hole in the ground.

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    The military should have absolutely no say in the politics of any given country and that's that. The same goes for trying to exploit the military for your own political goals, i.e Dubya-style "war hero" speeches with actual war-fighting soldiers used as cheap and effective background material for future commercials.

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