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    Default Sniper Records. Kills, Conflict, Service, Country.

    List from Crosshairs on the Kill Zone by Craig Roberts and Charles W. Sasser

    ARRGGHHHH. It was much neater on my Microsoft Word. Sorry for the mess, but you can prob figure it out.


    Name Conflict Service Confirmed Kills
    Simo Haya WWII Finland 500+
    Nikolay Yakovlrvich WWII Russia 496
    Suko Kolkka WWII Finland 400+
    Ilyin Vassili Zaitsev WWII Russia 400
    Matthias Hetzenauer WWII Germany 345
    Ludmilla Pavlichenko WWII Russia 309
    Sepp Allerberger WWII Germany 257
    Billy Sing WWII AIF 150
    Aldelbert Waldron III Vietnam US Army 109
    Chuck Mawhinney Vietnam US Marines 103
    Neville Methven WWI South Africa 100+
    Eric R. England Vietnam US Marines 98
    Carlos N. Hathcock Vietnam US Marines 93
    Thomas R. Leonard Vietnam US Marines 74
    Helmut Wirnsberger WWII Germany 64
    Joseph T. Ward Vietnam US Marines 63
    Herbert W. McBride WWI US with Canada 60+
    George Filyaw Vietnam US Marines 56
    Gary Reiter Vietnam US Marines 50+
    Raymond W. Westphal Vietnam US Marines 49
    James C. Peters Vietnam US Marines 43
    T.B. Graves Vietnam US Marines 43
    Lynn Bushnell Vietnam US Marines 43
    Daniel L. Greene Vietnam US Marines 42
    Joe York Vietnam US Marines 42
    K. Tanang Vietnam North Vietnam & 41
    East Timor
    Tom Ferran Vietnam US Marines 41
    James Gularte Vietnam US Marines 40
    R.D. Bundy Vietnam US Marines 40
    Michael E. Duncan Vietnam US Army 40
    William Lucas Vietnam& US Marines/ 38
    Panama US Army
    John M. Perry Vietnam US Marines 37
    Dennis Oscier Vietnam US Marines 36
    Bill E. Nation Vietnam US Marines 35
    Riel WWI Canada 30
    Clifford L. Wallace Vietnam US Marines 27
    Craig McGary Vietnam US Navy 26
    Jim O’ Neil Vietnam US Marines 25+
    Lloyd Crow Vietnam US Marines 23
    Jim Lever Vietnam US Marines 20+
    Bobby J. Lee Vietnam US Marines 18
    Craig Roberts Vietnam US Marines 18+
    Ed Kugler Vietnam US Marines 17
    Joshua Hamblin Iraq US Marines 17
    Gary J. Brown Vietnam US Navy 17
    Karl H. Grosshans Vietnam US Marines 16
    Owen Mulder Iraq US Marines 15
    Greg Kraljev Vietnam US Marines 15
    Frank Grieci Iraq US Marines 15
    Timothy Dunn Vietnam US Marines 14
    Joseph McElheny Iraq US Marines 13
    Thomas R. Cohenour Vietnam US Army 13
    Ron Szpond Vietnam US Marines 12
    William B. Martin Vietnam US Marines 12
    Ray Lafon Vietnam US Marines 5+
    Gabriel J. Gradney Vietnam US Marines 4
    Tom Rutter Beirut US Marines 4
    Dan Barker Vietnam US Marines 3+
    Chuck Kramer Beirut US Marines 3+
    Alan Bruce Hartung Vietnam US Marines 3
    Dave Dayter Iraq US Marines 3
    Colin McGee Vietnam US Marines 3
    Frank Roberts Beirut US Marines 2+
    Robert Miles Vietnam US Army 2
    Jonathan Crumley Beirut US Marines 2
    Eric L. Haney Beirut US Army 1
    David Baldree Beirut US Marines 1
    Earl Schooley Panama US Marines 1
    Andres Benevides Beirut US Army 1
    Jacob Heal Iraq US Marines 1

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    Finns seems to be the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack pl
    Finns seems to be the best

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    they just had lots of targets

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    You can add four unknown sharpshooters from the 126th Infantry regiment, 3rd Mech Bgde, French army, who did a synchronized shot on two albanian gunmen in Mitrovica last February....that's 0,5 kill per head !

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    Be aware that some of those body counts are seriously inflated by propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahriman
    Be aware that some of those body counts are seriously inflated by propaganda.
    Like which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falco
    Quote Originally Posted by mack pl
    Finns seems to be the best

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    they just had lots of targets
    yeah, but anyway they are good

    regards

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    Joshua Hamblin Iraq US Marines 17
    Dayum.

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    Default Re: Sniper Records. Kills, Conflict, Service, Country.

    Nice post, Devgru77, althought those numbers have already appeared in a number of topics.

    And now I'll enable my nitpick mode:

    "Simo Haya" should be "Simo Häyhä (or Hayha w/o scandic letters)"

    "Suko Kolkka" should be Sulo Kolkka


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    this is interesting figures...
    But this is figures from few wars... either ww2 or wars with western countries...

    For example during iran-iraq war there was an alone sniper who was caught after he killed 24 soilders from another platoon in my brothers company.
    he did the kills during 1-2 days.

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    You're right. The book was made by Americans, and is all about the American Snipers they interviewed... Your right, this isn't the complete list of all snipers , that would be a long list and alot of typing for me if it was. There are many unconfirmed reports of Sniper successes. The one you said could be one of them. According to Michael Durant, Randy Shugart killed around 20 somalis while defending the down chopper.. Now no one could confirm that for sure, he got his sources from Somalis, not US military. Plus both the snipers died, and durant was captured unfortunately, so there is no way they could've reported any kills

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    Well thats the way war works.

    I have one interesting story which occured
    when iraqis fighting for the iranian side siezed a place were there were a couple of houses near the iranian border.

    In the houses iraqi command staff were hiding. One of the bigger officers were missing they though he fled.

    Later in the day they heard one of the guys guarding screaming. He got shot and killed. They couldnt decide where the shots came from. During a 2 day period same thing happend to 4-5 guys. Even thou they were sending patrols out they didn find jack and the soilders were scared of snipers. The 6:th time the bastard tried he were able to shoot and injure one guy until they found him.

    He was hiding in the watertank with a silenced gun. And managed to hit lonley soilders that came close to the watertank.

    When they got him out he was still arrogant and defiant, unlike his comrades. He had the highest grade amongst them. Didnt cooperate at all and thus was executed on the place.
    I dont remember rank, or name but i think he was colonel... in the "swamps" unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devgru77
    Quote Originally Posted by Ahriman
    Be aware that some of those body counts are seriously inflated by propaganda.
    Like which one?

    Most of the top snipers, especially the Russian snipers had their kills exaggerated by Soviet propaganda. For example Zaitsev was credited with 142-242 kills in Stalingrad. That is a large margin. The same is probably true with the Finnish snipers.

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    Any proof? I didn't make this list, but people can't just be making claims like that without any proof.. Although it could be possible. The Finish guy Simo Haya has fought in numerous conflicts, with numerous countries; it's very possible that he could rack alot of confirmed kills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devgru77
    Any proof? I didn't make this list, but people can't just be making claims like that without any proof.. Although it could be possible. The Finish guy Simo Haya has fought in numerous conflicts, with numerous countries; it's very possible that he could rack alot of confirmed kills.
    Wha...What??

    Simo Häyhä never fought outside Finland.

    The unofficial Finnish frontline figure from the battle field of Kollaa places the number of Häyhä's sniper kills at 542. A daily account of the kills at Kollaa was conducted for the Finnish snipers. Häyhä used a Mosin-Nagant M28 rifle because it suited his small frame (5 ft). He preferred to use iron sights rather than telescopic sights to present less of a target (sun reflecting from lenses gave the position away, and you have to raise your head higher with telescopic sights).

    Besides his sniper kills, Simo Häyhä is known to have made well over two hundred kills with a machine gun*, a toy which he was very fond of. All Häyhä's kills were accomplished within three months**, prior to his injuries caused by an enemy bullet. Other snipers who have come even close to Häyhä´s record have accumulated their kills over much longer time frame.

    *AFAIK, these kills are not included in the "500+"

    **It's to be noted that Hayha had been sniping for weeks before starting to keep count on kills. His commanders also took note of this extraordinarily successful sniper, and kept a close eye on his actions. Therefore, I believe that there's little chance of "cheating"

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