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    Some images of Argentinian Air Arms (Army, Navy, CG and proper Air Force) from me






























































































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    Hey the Pucara lives on! The AFP could use this against the NPA and the MILF.

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    hehe, i gotta love those Pucarás & Mohawks!!

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    T-28 Fennec


    P2V-5 Neptune


    Grumman G-21 Goose


    Fairchild 82



    F4U-5 Corsair

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    S-2A Tracker

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    T-6 Texan

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    T-34C Turbomentor

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    Great pics enallos!!!!

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    Default Some older air force pictures




    A-4P Skyhawks after the 1982 war


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    excelent Elbs!!! as always....

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    Marines conduct combat exercises with the fast amphibious transport ARA Hercules (converted Type 42 destroyer).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbs View Post
    Marines cold weather exercise
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    Excellent shots !!!!!!!!
    Seems like we´ve got our own "cold response", Argentine style !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbs View Post
    Marines conduct combat exercises with the fast amphibious transport ARA Hercules (converted Type 42 destroyer).

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    Wow... Sea Dart rounds expended like 20-something years ago, Mk.30 launcher inoperable, Type 909 fire control radars gone... it's official! They have turned a warship into a bulk carrier!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisBV View Post
    Wow... Sea Dart rounds expended like 20-something years ago, Mk.30 launcher inoperable, Type 909 fire control radars gone... it's official! They have turned a warship into a bulk carrier!
    Well, when ELbs politely said "fast amphibious transport ARA Hercules (converted Type 42 destroyer)" meant exactly that. What´s your point?

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    LOL at least she's doing better than Santisima Trinidad....

    What do you expect when 75% of the budget goes towards salaries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbs View Post
    LOL at least she's doing better than Santisima Trinidad....

    What do you expect when 75% of the budget goes towards salaries...
    and the 100% of both ships comes from UK...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tintxo View Post
    and the 100% of both ships comes from UK...
    Upgraded in Chile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tintxo
    Well, when ELbs politely said "fast amphibious transport ARA Hercules (converted Type 42 destroyer)" meant exactly that. What´s your point?
    My point is...

    ... it's kind of pathetic that the most expensive naval construction project of its day in Latin America came to an end as an empty hull, canibalised for spares to its bare structure and as a semi-finished conversion of what used to be a warship into a transport vessel, don't you think? Without Sea Dart, the existence of the Type 42 destroyer is pretty much pointless (as the class was designed primarily as an AAW platform). And to think that GWS30 was the most modern naval area-defence SAM in service in the region, ceasing operation in the early nineties whereas, for instance, the Chilean Navy managed to continue to keep and operate the outdated and prehistoric Sea Slug well into the 1990s...

    Don't blame the UK for the fate of Argentina's Type 42 destroyers, it wasn't the UK that ruined perfectly good relations with Argentina...

    And I see ARA Hércules still keeps her original (and outdated) Type 965 air-surveillance radar. Nothing prevents the Armada Argentina from changing it so don't blame the Brits.

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    LOL at least she's doing better than Santisima Trinidad....
    Well, it would seem logical to a certain degree that Hércules was chosen to survive and not Santísima Trinidad, as the latter one was damaged while under construction in Argentina and could never been fixed entirely. The damage affected her acoustic signature significantly ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisBV View Post
    Don't blame the UK for the fate of Argentina's Type 42 destroyers, it wasn't the UK that ruined perfectly good relations with Argentina...

    And I see ARA Hércules still keeps her original (and outdated) Type 965 air-surveillance radar. Nothing prevents the Armada Argentina from changing it so don't blame the Brits.
    Money prevents it.

    What sense does it make to pour scarce funds into the single ship of its class, which had an embargo on their spare parts until the late 90s? IIRC there isn't any 114-mm ammunition for the main guns either. 25 years without spare parts is hell on any weapon system, not to mention a destroyer. Any funds to return the Sea Dart to service would have taken away from other projects, like refurbishing the Exocet and Aspide air defense missiles, which are in use with more platforms. It's easily within the capability of CITEFA, but there is simply no money.

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