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    A very small force indeed. His name was Rudolph Hess.

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    I always wonderd what would have happened if Germany could have built water hovercrafts type transports to transport a number of small light fast vehicles and infantry teams to do lightning strikes. and focused on taking Ireland and using it as a staging point.

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    ^interesting thought, but AFAIK, by that time the battle for the sea was already in the favor of the British.

    On the otherhand, it would be interesting to see what a German AMTRACK would look like

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalifah View Post
    ^interesting thought, but AFAIK, by that time the battle for the sea was already in the favor of the British.

    On the otherhand, it would be interesting to see what a German AMTRACK would look like
    It would probably be the coolest looking AMTRACK ever and mount the biggest best gun possible. Then it would breakdown halfway to the shore and everyone would drown.

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    Something like this if they could have built something comparable back then.

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    Germany already had enough trouble producing sufficient aircraft engines without having to divert some to zee UberHoverLuftschiffZug. Probably the only engines that were to spare were those in the captured part of the French air-force. So yes it would break down, and then an RN destroyer would come along and the occupants would have to hope like hell that they were feeling charitable that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISNJH View Post
    I always wonderd what would have happened if Germany could have built water hovercrafts type transports to transport a number of small light fast vehicles and infantry teams to do lightning strikes. and focused on taking Ireland and using it as a staging point.
    I wonder what would have happened if the Germans had been allied with the Daleks.

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    One of the reason's I read that the D-day invasion was pushed up was that even with constant bombing and raids the German V-2 production had not slowed down but had increased since Germany was devoting large amounts of materials and manpower to those programs and launches of V-2 rockets were increasing over the month's and not decreasing. if Germany had instead focused their effort on development of a fast transport ship that could carry a number of light vehicles or troops and risked a fast strike on Briton then the war might have been different. if they could have even managed to land a force in England it would have been a blow to moral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISNJH View Post
    if they could have even managed to land a force in England it would have been a blow to moral.
    Only if...
    (a) said force wasn't massacred in the process .
    (b) it managed to strike a significant blow .
    neither of which seem likely even with the use of non existant hovercraft,ekranoplanes,flying subs or whatever.....

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    What kind of 'heavy' weaponry(thinking Pak 40's, armored cars, etc..) did German paratroopers deploy with when they were making a jump?

    My thinking is, one way the Germans may have been able to side-step the naval problem of invading is by launching a massive airborne assault with XX many paratrooper divisions. Of course there is the MINOR detail of logistics, as well as the issue of air superiority. But hey!, what could go wrong?

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    er lots of german paras dead or prisoner market garden did'nt go to well.
    england had rather effective defenses set up and some armour and a lot of artillery.
    Nazi germany just did'nt have the kit to take the UK by force hitler had'nt planned to.
    luftwaffe was set up as a close support force so no heavy bombers.
    German navy apart from u boats could'nt take on the Royal navy.

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    A great deal of the German para force had been wounded and was recovering after their efforts in the Netherlands/Belgium. In addition, the Dutch did the British a big favour and shot the crap out of the Ju-52 force. A large percentage of the Ju-52's were written off (I think I gave some numbers at the beginning of this thread). A large scale attack a la Crete wasn't possible at that timeframe (although the British didn't know it apparently).

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    germany just did'nt have the kit or numbers to suceed.
    back of the cigarrete planning balls and flexability will only get you so far.
    It won't get an effective military force across the channel.
    If hitler had been serious about it the planning would have had to start prewar the German navy would have had to been built up.
    etc etc etc.
    sealion was a half arsed effort that could never have succeded.
    compare with the kit and time and equipment that overloard took you can see as a military operation it was a joke.

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    In my opinion sealion is a first good hint that Hitler really overestimated the abilities of the German Army. According to naval warfare, UK was undefeatable, according to aerial warfare at least both were on the same level, but the Luftwaffe had one of the most incompetent leaders of the military history on its head: Herman Goering.

    I like the idea of martinexquaddie saying that sealion was a half arsed effort. For example Germany caught any tiny boat they could get. The plan was to send soldiers by trawlers, rowboats and so on. I think (or at least I hope) nobody of German leadership really wanted to execute that plan.

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