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    Finland clears way for Baltic gas pipeline
    By MATTI HUUHTANEN (AP) – 20 hours ago
    HELSINKI — A Finnish environmental agency on Friday approved plans to build a natural gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea — the final permit needed for the underwater energy link between Russia and Germany.
    The decision by the regional agency means the Russian-German joint venture Nord Stream AG can start the euro7.4 billion ($10.6 billion) project in April. The company had already received permits from Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Russia and Finland's national government.
    The first of two pipes is expected to be completed in 2011. Once completed the dual pipeline will carry some 1.9 trillion cubic feet (55 billion cubic meters) of natural gas a year from Vyborg in Russia to the German port of Greifswald — enough for more than 25 million people.
    Europe is hoping a direct pipeline to Russia will ensure continuous supplies of natural gas. In recent years, a long-standing spat between Russia and Ukraine threatened supplies when Moscow turned off gas taps to Ukraine along a pipeline that also served western Europe.
    Still, the project has generated heated debate in the region, mainly over security concerns and the impact on the fragile maritime environment of the brackish water. Environmentalists fear construction could lead to toxins and weapons being stirred up from the seabed in one of the world's most polluted seas.
    Poland and other former Soviet and Soviet-bloc countries — traditional transit routes for Russian gas — also worry the pipeline could permit Russia to threaten their gas supplies without cutting off customers in Western Europe.
    The Finnish government last year said it had no objections to the pipeline if environment authorities were satisfied with Nord Stream's plans to minimize ecological damage. The final hurdle was cleared Friday as the southern Finnish Regional State Administrative Agency gave permission for construction work in Finland's exclusive economic zone with certain conditions.
    Agency spokesman Mika Seppala said they include safety regulations on exploding weapons in the water, and compensation for fishermen whose trade will be disturbed by the construction.
    "They will have to use pipe-laying vessels in the Finnish zone which will not be anchored to the seabed so as not to stir up sediment," Seppala said.
    Also, the agency will require that Nord Stream adopt "a close monitoring system" when the pipe-laying gets under way, he said.
    Nord Stream spokesman Sebastian Sass said the company would fully comply with the conditions, calling them "tough but they are appropriate."
    The approval comes just two days after Russian prime Minister Vladimir Putin downplayed environmental concerns about the project at a summit of Baltic Sea countries in Helsinki. Putin said the company had spent more than euro100 million ($135 million) to make sure the pipeline would be "absolutely safe and reliable."
    Russia's Gazprom holds 51 percent of Nord Stream, while German energy companies E.ON Ruhrgas AG and Wintershall AG each have a 20 percent share. Dutch company Nederlandse Gasunie NV holds the remaining 9 percent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mango Madness View Post
    Europe is hoping a direct pipeline to Russia will ensure continuous supplies of natural gas. In recent years, a long-standing spat between Russia and Ukraine threatened supplies when Moscow turned off gas taps to Ukraine along a pipeline that also served western Europe.
    AFAIK Nord Stream has nothing in common with pipeline through Ukraine. They goes/will go in completely different directions and supply/will supply different customers.

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    final client-FRG.
    important to worthy partners do not suffer from the political madness of young European democracies.
    + Explicit puppet (not from the Europeans) of these regimes.

    need direct delivery, will not be dependent on the will of distant puppeteers.

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    ^^^ You surely have some big emotional problem - inferiority complex or something.

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    that's great news. Another big project that would connect Europe and Russia even more.

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    Finnish decision was basicly "a rubber stamp" decision. So what if our gov had dared to say no? The pipeline would still be made and we would have angered Russia and Germany. Now, if we want cheap gas in the near future, or maybe lower tolls on timber from Russia to feed Finnish paper factories... yip, you got the picture.

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    pocoloco: Yes, I think the situation is like that.
    Hope every side involved in the project (Finn included) will gets its profit

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    Finland should get Karelia back now. And that land area to the arctic sea. No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HakkaPelitta View Post
    Finland should get Karelia back now. And that land area to the arctic sea. No?
    Ain't gonna happen, but keep dreaming

    Am I right that Finland could not refuse without a serious reason? All they could do was just to delay the decision. I believe some economic carrot was offered just to speed things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HakkaPelitta View Post
    Finland should get Karelia back now. And that land area to the arctic sea. No?
    Russia should get Finland back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamming_Python View Post
    Russia should get Finland back
    And Mongolia should get Russia back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papenheims View Post
    And Mongolia should get Russia back.
    And Neanderthals should get the planet back

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordel View Post
    Am I right that Finland could not refuse without a serious reason? All they could do was just to delay the decision. I believe some economic carrot was offered just to speed things up.
    Pretty much.. Since all other countries agreed to the project and the Finnish veto would just worsen the relations between EU countries such as Germany and with Russia..

    Finland probably got some "carrots" in form of lower timber tolls etc.. Like Pocoloco said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamming_Python View Post
    Russia should get Finland back
    I agree with that notion

    On the same notion Sweden should get Russia back


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoshi View Post
    Pretty much.. Since all other countries agreed to the project and the Finnish veto would just worsen the relations between EU countries such as Germany and with Russia.
    I mean they could not refuse legally, without serious enough justification. I have read somewhere that they are legally obliged to provide a passage for international Baltic traffic and communication/supply lines, something like that.

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