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    From pics of german police, it seems they are usually equipped with a submachine gun like an mp-5, do the police there carry them on a regular basis, or only bring them when needed?

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    Regular police forces carry the new HK P2000 pistol, but every squad-car has a MP 5 with it. There are also patrols that carry MP5 sub-machine guns.
    German SWAT usually carries all variants of the MP5, Steyer AUG, Sig Sg551/552 and UMP.

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    germans.....always prepared to go to war he he

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    Regular police forces carry the new HK P2000 pistol, but every squad-car has a MP 5 with it. There are also patrols that carry MP5 sub-machine guns.
    Regular patrols don't carry a smg, only in high thread environments such as embassy guards and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pille1234
    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    Regular police forces carry the new HK P2000 pistol, but every squad-car has a MP 5 with it. There are also patrols that carry MP5 sub-machine guns.
    Regular patrols don't carry a smg, only in high thread environments such as embassy guards and so on.
    Believe me, I saw alot of patrols in Munich and Berlin carrying MP5's, it's not common but it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipaz
    germans.....always prepared to go to war he he
    In Poland we say:
    "One German = a poet. Two Germans = an organisation. Three Germans = war."

    Also we say "Two Poles = three opinions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeMat
    Quote Originally Posted by pipaz
    germans.....always prepared to go to war he he
    In Poland we say:
    "One German = a poet. Two Germans = an organisation. Three Germans = war."

    Also we say "Two Poles = three opinions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    Regular police forces carry the new HK P2000 pistol
    That depends on the state - they also carry HK P7 and P10 (USP Compact).

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    Quote Originally Posted by Pille1234
    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    Regular police forces carry the new HK P2000 pistol, but every squad-car has a MP 5 with it. There are also patrols that carry MP5 sub-machine guns.
    Regular patrols don't carry a smg, only in high thread environments such as embassy guards and so on.
    Believe me, I saw alot of patrols in Munich and Berlin carrying MP5's, it's not common but it happens.

    that's right. espacially at munich airport an so on it's quiet common that policemen carry MP5s.

    here is a list of all german infantry weapons, also police weapons, thou I don't know if it's 100% correct.

    Handguns
    Designation: Pistole 31 – P31
    Common Name: Modell 200
    Calibre: 5.6×16mmR
    Origin: Hämmerli AG, Lenzburg, Switzerland.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. OBSOLETE.
    Details: Target pistol.

    Designation: Pistole 11 – P11
    Common Name: P11
    Calibre: 7.62×36mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (1975-). In use with Kampfschwimmer and KSK.
    Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9.
    Details: Five-barrelled pepperbox-style weapon for underwater use.

    Designation: Pistole 21 – P21
    Common Name: PPK
    Calibre: 7.65×17mmSR
    Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm; Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin (MANURHIN), Mulhouse-Bourtzwiler, France (licensed).
    Use: Armed forces: limited service. Formerly in use with pilots and military police. OBSOLETE.
    Police forces: limited service. Formerly in use with police forces. OBSOLETE.

    Designation: Pistole 22 – P22
    Common Name: PP
    Calibre: 7.65×17mmSR
    Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm; Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin (MANURHIN), Mulhouse-Bourtzwiler, France (licensed).
    Use: Police forces: limited service. Formerly in use with police forces. OBSOLETE.

    Designation: Pistole 9 Maritim – P9M
    Common Name: Glock 17
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Glock GmbH, Deutsch-Wagram, Austria.
    Use: Police forces: special service (1993-). In use with GSG9 (250 acquired), ZUZ, SEK Dresden, SEK Göppingen, and SEK München.
    Details: Underwater use possible.

    Common Name: Glock 26
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Glock GmbH, Deutsch-Wagram, Austria.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9, ZUZ, and SEK Berlin.

    Designation: Pistole 7 – P7
    Common Name: PSP
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: general service. In use with GSG9 (1980-), BKA, state police of Baden-Württemberg, Bayern, Niedersachsen, Sachsen, SEK Göppingen.

    Common Name: P7M8
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: limited service (1985-). In use with Feldjäger.
    Police forces: general service. In use with BKA, state police of Baden-Württemberg, Bayern, Niedersachsen, Sachsen, SEK Göppingen.

    Common Name: P7M13
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK München and SEK Nürnberg.

    Designation: Pistole 8 – P8
    Common Name: USP
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Bundeswehr: general service (1994-). 20.720 acquired.

    Designation: Pistole 8 Combat – P8 Combat
    Common Name: USP V3
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Bundeswehr: special service (1997-). In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.

    Designation: Pistole 10 – P10
    Common Name: USP Compact
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: general service (1997-). In use with state police of Bremen, Saarland, Sachsen, and Thüringen.

    Common Name: P2000 V1
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service (2002-). 400 acquired by SEK Göppingen and other special units in Baden-Württemberg.

    Common Name: P2000 V2
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: general service (2002-). 10,200 acquired by state police of Niedersachsen, replacing P7.

    Common Name: P2000 V5
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: general service (2002-). 25,000 acquired by state police of Baden-Württemberg, replacing P5.

    Common Name: P2000SK V2
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: general service (2004-). 5,000 acquired by state police of Niedersachsen, replacing P7.

    Designation: Pistole 2 – P2
    Common Name: P210-4
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Schweizerische Industrie-Gesellschaft (SIG), Neuhausen, Switzerland.
    Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with BGS. OBSOLETE.

    Designation: Pistole 6 – P6
    Common Name: P225
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde.
    Use: Police forces: general service. In use with BGS, BKA, Bundeszollpolizei, state police of Berlin (10,000 in 1984), Hamburg, Hessen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Sachsen-Anhalt, and Schleswig-Holstein.

    Common Name: P226
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with Fernspäher and Kampfschwimmer.
    Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe, PSK Berlin, SEK Berlin, SEK Bielefeld, SEK Köln, SEK Dortmund, SEK Düsseldorf, SEK Essen, SEK Frankfurt, and SEK Münster.

    Common Name: P228
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde.
    Use: Police forces: general service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe and state police of Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

    Common Name: P229
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe.

    Common Name: P239
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde.
    Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with female officers in Brandenburg.

    Designation: Pistole 1 – P1
    Common Name: P38
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1955-). Standard sidearm. Being replaced by H&K P8 since 1994, but still in widespread use.

    Designation: Pistole 5 – P5
    Common Name: P5
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm.
    Use: Police forces: general service. In use with state police of Rheinland-Pfalz and Baden-Württemberg (being replaced by P2000 V5 since late 2002).

    Common Name: Model 38 Bodyguard
    Calibre: 9×29mmR
    Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe.

    Common Name: Model 649 Bodyguard
    Calibre: 9×29mmR
    Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK Dresden, SEK München, and SEK Nürnberg.

    Common Name: Model 19 Combat Magnum
    Calibre: 9×33mmR
    Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9, MEK Hamburg, and SEK Göppingen.

    Designation: Pistole 12 – P12
    Common Name: USP Tactical
    Calibre: 11.43×23mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (2000-). In use with Kampfschwimmer and KSK.
    Details: Detachable sound-suppressor.

    Submachine Guns and Personal Defence Weapons
    Designation: Maschinenpistole 7 – MP7
    Common Name: MP7 PDW
    Calibre: 4.6×30mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (2001-). In use with KSK, DSO and Feldjäger.
    Details: Retractable stock. EOTech 551 reflex sight.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 7A1 – MP7A1
    Common Name: MP7A1 PDW
    Calibre: 4.6×30mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (200?-). In use with KSK, DSO and Feldjäger; to replace IMI MP2A1 as squad leader and crew weapon.
    Details: Retractable stock. EOTech 551 reflex sight.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 Ausführung 2 – MP5A2
    Common Name: MP5A2
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: general service (1971-).

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 Ausführung 2 – MP5A2
    Common Name: MP5A4
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (1985-). In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Police forces: special service (1985-). In use with some SEK units.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic, 3-round bursts, and full-automatic.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 Ausführung 3 – MP5A3
    Common Name: MP5A3
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: general service (1971-).
    Details: Retractable stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 Ausführung 3 – MP5A3
    Common Name: MP5A5
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. Few. In use with Feldjäger.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic and 2-round bursts. Retractable stock. Fitted with tactical light.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 Ausführung 3 – MP5A3
    Common Name: MP5A5
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (1985-). Few. In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Police forces: special service (1985-). In use with some SEK units.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic, 3-round bursts, and full-automatic. Retractable stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 Kurz – MP5K
    Common Name: MP5K
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with Feldjäger.
    Police forces: special service (1978-). In use with GSG9, BKA Sicherungsgruppe, and SEK units.
    Details: No stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 Kurz – MP5K
    Common Name: MP5KA4
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (1985-). Few. In use with Feldjäger, KSK, and Kampfschwimmer.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic, 3-round bursts, and full-automatic. No stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 Kurz mit Schulterstütze – MP5K
    Common Name: MP5KA4-PDW
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (1996-). In use with Feldjäger and KSK.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic, 3-round bursts, and full-automatic. Folding stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 mit Schalldämpfer Ausführung 3 – MP5SD3
    Common Name: MP5SD3
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9 and SEKs.
    Details: Integral sound suppressor. Retractable stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 5 mit Schalldämpfer Ausführung 3 – MP5SD3
    Common Name: MP5SD6
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (1985-). Few. In use with Feldjäger, KSK, and Kampfschwimmer.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic, 3-round bursts, and full-automatic. Integral sound suppressor. Retractable stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 2 – MP2
    Common Name: Uzi
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Israel Military Industries (IMI), Ramat Ha Sharon, Israel.
    Use: Armed forces: reserve service (1959-). OBSOLETE.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 2 Ausführung 1 – MP2A1
    Common Name: Uzi
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Israel Military Industries (IMI), Ramat Ha Sharon, Israel.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1967-). OBSOLESCENT.
    Details: Folding stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 3 – MP3
    Common Name: MPL
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm.
    Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with some state police forces. OBSOLESCENT.
    Details: Folding stock.

    Designation: Maschinenpistole 4 – MP4
    Common Name: MPK
    Calibre: 9×19mm
    Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm.
    Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with some state police forces. OBSOLESCENT.
    Details: Folding stock.

    Rifles
    Designation: Gewehr 33 – G33
    Common Name:
    Calibre: 5.6×16mmR
    Origin: J.G. Anschütz GmbH, Ulm.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with biathlon shooters.

    Designation: Gewehr 34 – G34
    Common Name:
    Calibre: 5.6×16mmR
    Origin: J.G. Anschütz GmbH, Ulm.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with biathlon shooters.

    Designation: Gewehr 35 – G35
    Common Name: Modell 1827 Fortner
    Calibre: 5.6×16mmR
    Origin: J.G. Anschütz GmbH, Ulm.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with biathlon shooters.

    Designation: Gewehr 31 – G31
    Common Name:
    Calibre: 5.6×16mmR
    Origin: ERMA-Werke, Dachau.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with biathlon shooters.

    Designation: Gewehr 31 Ausführung 1 – G31A1
    Common Name:
    Calibre: 5.6×16mmR
    Origin: ERMA-Werke, Dachau.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with biathlon shooters.

    Designation: Gewehr 32 – G32
    Common Name: KKJ
    Calibre: 5.6×16mmR
    Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with biathlon shooters.

    Designation: Gewehr 36 – G36
    Common Name: G36
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1996-).
    Police forces: special service. In use with ZUZ.
    Details: Folding stock. Integral Hensoldt 3× scope and collimating sight. Optional bipod.

    Designation: Gewehr 36 Ausführung 1 – G36A1
    Common Name: G36A1
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (2002-).
    Details: Folding stock. Integral Hensoldt 3× scope and collimating sight. Optional bipod.

    Designation: Gewehr 36 Ausführung 2 – G36A2
    Common Name: G36A2
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: limited service (2004-).
    Details: Folding stock. Integral Hensoldt 3× scope and new Zeiss collimating sight. Optional bipod. New forearm with accessory rails (usually fitted with the Oerlikon-Contraves LLM-01 targeting laser/tactical light).

    Designation: Gewehr 36 Kurz – G36K
    Common Name: G36K
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (1997-). In use with KSK, Kampfschwimmer, DSO and Feldjäger units.
    Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9, ZUZ, and SEK Baden-Württemberg.
    Details: Carbine with 320mm barrel. Folding stock. Integral Hensoldt 3× scope and collimating sight.

    Designation: Gewehr 36 Kurz Ausführung 1 – G36KA1
    Common Name: G36KA1
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (2002-). In use with KSK, Kampfschwimmer, and DSO units.
    Details: Carbine with 320mm barrel. Folding stock. No sights. MIL-STD-1913 sight rail (usually fitted with EOTech 551 reflex sight). KAC forearm with accessory rails (usually fitted with the Oerlikon-Contraves LLM-01 targeting laser/tactical light). Detachable sound-suppressor.

    Designation: Gewehr 36 Kurz Ausführung 2 – G36KA2
    Common Name: G36KA2
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (2002-). In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Details: Carbine with 320mm barrel. Folding stock. Integral Hensoldt 3× scope and MIL-STD-1913 sight rail (usually fitted with EOTech 551 reflex sight). KAC forearm with accessory rails (usually fitted with the Oerlikon-Contraves LLM-01 targeting laser/tactical light). Detachable sound-suppressor.

    Designation: Gewehr 36 Commando – G36C
    Common Name: G36C
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (200?-). In use with KSK, Kampfschwimmer, DSO and Feldjäger units.
    Details: Carbine with 228mm barrel. Folding stock. MIL-STD-1913 sight rail.

    Common Name: HK53A3
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with some SEKs.
    Details: Carbine with 211mm barrel. Retractable stock.

    Designation: Gewehr 37 – G37
    Common Name: SG551 SWAT
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Schweizerische Industrie-Gesellschaft (SIG), Neuhausen, Switzerland.
    Use: Police forces: special service (1994-). In use with GSG9, SEK Berlin, and SEK Erfurt.
    Details: Carbine with 363mm barrel. Fires semiautomatic, 3-round limited bursts, and full-automatic. Folding stock.

    Common Name: SG551-LB
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Schweizerische Industrie-Gesellschaft (SIG), Neuhausen, Switzerland.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with PSK Berlin.
    Details: Carbine with ???mm barrel. Fires semiautomatic, 3-round limited bursts, and full-automatic. Folding stock with cheek rest.

    Common Name: AUG A1
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Steyr-Mannlicher GmbH, Steyr, Austria.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK München.
    Details: 1.5× scope.

    Common Name: SL9SD
    Calibre: 7.62×37mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9.
    Details: Integral sound suppressor. Hensoldt 6× scope. Bipod.

    Common Name: AWP
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Accuracy International Ltd, Portsmouth, England.
    Use: Police forces: special service.
    Details: ???× scope. Bipod.

    Common Name: DSR-1
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: AMP Technical Services, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service (2000-). In use with SEK Nürnberg.
    Details: ???× scope. Bipod.

    Common Name: R 93 Tactical
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Blaser Jagdwaffen GmbH, Isny.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK München.
    Details: ??× scope.

    Common Name: SR-100
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: ERMA-Werke, Dachau.
    Use: Police forces: special service (1997-). In use with ZUZ. Formerly in use with GSG9.
    Details: ???× scope. Bipod.

    Designation: Gewehr 1 – G1
    Common Name: FAL-50-00
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Fabrique Nationale d’Armes de Guerre SA (FN), Herstal, Belgium.
    Use: Police forces: reserve service. Still in service with some agencies for rifle grenade delivery. OBSOLETE.

    Designation: Gewehr 3 – G3
    Common Name: G3
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf; Rheinmetall AG, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1961-1962). OBSOLETE.
    Details: Wooden furniture. Folding sight (Klappvisier).

    Designation: Gewehr 3 Ausführung 1 – G3A1
    Common Name: G3A1
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf; Rheinmetall AG, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: limited service (1962-). OBSOLETE.
    Details: Wooden furniture. Folding sight (Klappvisier). Retractable stock.

    Designation: Gewehr 3 Ausführung 2 – G3A2
    Common Name: G3A2
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1962-). OBSOLETE.

    Designation: Gewehr 3 Ausführung 3 – G3A3
    Common Name: G3A3
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf; Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk, Kongsberg, Norway (licensed).
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1964-).

    Designation: Gewehr 3 Ausführung 3 Ausführung 1 – G3A3A1
    Common Name: G3A3
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1996-).
    Details: New-style pistol grip and case deflector.

    Designation: Gewehr 3 Ausführung 4 – G3A4
    Common Name: G3A4
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1964-).
    Details: Retractable stock.

    Designation: Gewehr 3 Ausführung 4 Ausführung 1 – G3A4A1
    Common Name: G3A4
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1996-).
    Details: New-style pistol grip and case deflector. Retractable stock.

    Designation: Gewehr 3 Kurz Ausführung 4 – G3KA4
    Common Name: G3KA4
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK NRW.
    Details: Carbine with 322mm barrel. Retractable stock.

    Common Name: PSG1
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Police forces: special service (1982-). In use with GSG9, ZUZ, PSK Berlin, and all SEK units.
    Details: Hensoldt 6× scope.

    Common Name: Modell 66SP
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Mauser-Werke AG, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service (1973). In use with GSG9 and many SEKs.
    Details: Zeiss 1.5-6× scope.

    Common Name: Modell 86SR
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Mauser-Werke AG, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with some SEKs.
    Details: Zeiss 1.5-6× scope.

    Common Name: Modell 86SD
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Mauser-Werke AG, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK Dresden.
    Details: Integral sound suppressor. Zeiss 1.5-6× scope.

    Designation: Gewehr 5 – G5
    Common Name: SSG 69
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Steyr-Daimler-Puch GmbH, Steyr, Austria
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with PSK Berlin and SEK München.
    Details: Kahles 6× scope.

    Common Name: SBS Tactical
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Steyr-Mannlicher GmbH, Steyr, Austria.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK Brandenburg.
    Details: ???× scope.

    Common Name: WA2000
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Carl Walther Waffenfabrik, Ulm.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK Göppingen. OBSOLETE.
    Details: ???× scope. Bipod.

    Designation: Gewehr 22 – G22
    Common Name: AWMF
    Calibre: 7.62×66mmB
    Origin: Accuracy International Ltd, Portsmouth, England.
    Use: Armed forces: limited service (1998-).
    Details: Hensoldt 3-12× scope. Bipod. Detachable sound-suppressor.

    Designation: Gewehr 22 Ausführung 1 – G22A1
    Common Name: AWMF
    Calibre: 7.62×66mmB
    Origin: Accuracy International Ltd, Portsmouth, England.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (200?-).
    Details: Schmidt & Bender 3-12× scope. Bipod. Detachable sound-suppressor.

    Designation: Gewehr 23 – G23
    Common Name: AWM
    Calibre: 7.62×66mmB
    Origin: Accuracy International Ltd, Portsmouth, England.
    Use: Armed forces: limited service (1991-). Limited number acquired, pending arrival of G22.
    Details: Hensoldt 3-12× scope. Bipod.

    Common Name: SM98
    Calibre: 7.62×66mmB
    Origin: Saxonia Spezialtechnik, Schwarzenberg.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK Dresden.
    Details: ???× scope. Bipod.

    Common Name: WA2000
    Calibre: 7.62×66mmB
    Origin: Carl Walther Waffenfabrik, Ulm.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK Göppingen. OBSOLETE.
    Details: ???× scope. Bipod.

    Designation: Gewehr 21 – G21
    Common Name: Kar98K
    Calibre: 7.92×57mm
    Origin: Mauser-Werke AG, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: out-of-service. Ceremonial drill service only.

    Common Name: AWM
    Calibre: 8.6×70mm
    Origin: Accuracy International Ltd, Portsmouth, England.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK München.
    Details: Hensoldt 3-12× scope. Bipod.

    Designation: Gewehr 24 – G24?
    Common Name: AW50F
    Calibre: 12.7×99mm
    Origin: Accuracy International Ltd, Portsmouth, England.
    Use: Armed forces: trials service.
    Details: Hensoldt 3-12× scope. Bipod.

    Designation: Gewehr 82 – G82?
    Common Name: Model 82A3
    Calibre: 12.7×99mm
    Origin: Barrett.
    Use: Armed forces: trials service.
    Details: Hensoldt 6-24× scope. Bipod.

    Designation: Bordgewehr 12,7mm
    Common Name: Model 93
    Calibre: 12.7×99mm
    Origin: McMillan Gun Works Inc, Phoenix, USA.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. 8 acquired for use with KSK, 12 for use with navy.
    Details: ???× scope. Bipod.

    Common Name: Hécate II
    Calibre: 12.7×99mm
    Origin: PGM Précision SARL, La Chambre, France.
    Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK München.
    Details: ???× scope. Bipod.

    Shotguns
    Common Name: M3 Super 90
    Calibre: 18.5×76mmR
    Origin: Benelli Armi SpA, Urbino, Italy.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with KSK.
    Police forces: special service. In use with SEK München and SEK Nürnberg.

    Common Name: HK512
    Calibre: 18.5×70mmR
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Police forces: special service (1982-). In use with GSG9 and most SEK units.

    Common Name: Model 870PS Magnum
    Calibre: 18.5×76mmR
    Origin: Remington Arms Co Inc, Madison, USA.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Police forces: special service. In use with ZUZ.

    Machine Guns
    Common Name: HK23E
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic, 3-round bursts, and full-automatic. Bipod.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 4 – MG4
    Common Name: MG43
    Calibre: 5.56×45mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service.
    Details: Bipod. MIL-STD-1913 scope rail.

    Designation: Gewehr 8 – G8
    Common Name: HK81
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer.
    Police forces: general service. In use with BGS.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic, 3-round bursts, and full-automatic. Bipod. Can be converted to belt-feed, in which case it is called the MG8. Usually fitted with 4× scope.

    Designation: Gewehr 8 Ausführung 1 – G8A1
    Common Name: HK81
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with Bereitschaftspolizei and all SEKs.
    Details: Fires semiautomatic, 3-round bursts, and full-automatic. Bipod. Cannot be converted to belt-feed. Usually fitted with 4× scope.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 1 – MG1
    Common Name: MG42/59
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: out of service. OBSOLETE.
    Details: Converted MG42 of WWII-vintage. Bipod. Non-disintegrating belt.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 1 Ausführung 1 – MG1A1
    Common Name: MG42/59
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: out service. OBSOLETE.
    Details: Newly-made. Bipod. Non-disintegrating belt.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 1 Ausführung 2 – MG1A2
    Common Name: MG42/59
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: out of service. OBSOLETE.
    Details: Newly-made. Bipod. Non-disintegrating belt. Heavier bolt for slower RoF.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 1 Ausführung 3 – MG1A3
    Common Name: MG42/59
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: out of service. OBSOLETE. All converted to MG3 configuration.
    Details: Newly-made. Bipod. Non-disintegrating belt or disintegrating belt.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 1 Ausführung 5 – MG1A5
    Common Name: MG42/59
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: out of service. OBSOLETE. All converted to MG3A1 configuration.
    Details: Newly-made. Lacks stock and bipod. Non-disintegrating belt or disintegrating belt.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 2 – MG2
    Common Name: MG42/59
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: out of service. OBSOLETE.
    Details: Converted MG42 of WWII-vintage. Bipod. Non-disintegrating belt.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 3 – MG3
    Common Name: MG3
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1968-). Standard machine gun.
    Details: Bipod. Non-disintegrating belt or disintegrating belt.

    Designation: Maschinengewehr 3 Ausführung 1 – MG3A1
    Common Name: MG3A1
    Calibre: 7.62×51mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1968-). Standard vehicle machine gun. Mounted on most vehicles, including the KPz Leopard 2A5 main battle tank, KPz Leopard 2A6 main battle tank, and SPz Marder 1A5 infantry fighting vehicle.
    Details: Lacks stock and bipod. Non-disintegrating belt or disintegrating belt. Stock and bipod usually carried onboard to allow dismounted use.

    Designation: schweres Maschinengewehr 50-1 – MG50-1
    Common Name: Browning M2HB
    Calibre: 12.7×99mm
    Origin: USA.
    Use: Armed forces: limited service. Some are currently used as armament of small navy boats.

    Designation: schweres Maschinengewehr
    Common Name: Browning M2QCB
    Calibre: 12.7×99mm
    Origin: Fabrique Nationale SA (FN), Herstal, Belgium.
    Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with KSK on vehicles.
    Details: EOTech 551 reflex sight.

    Designation: schweres Maschinengewehr
    Common Name: Browning M3M
    Calibre: 12.7×99mm
    Origin: Fabrique Nationale SA (FN), Herstal, Belgium.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (2001-). In use on navy Mk 88 Sea Lynx helicopters.
    Details: Doorgun, single weapons mounted in left door of Mk 88A Sea Lynx helicopters for boarding support.

    Grenade Launchers
    Designation: Abschussgerät, Granate 40mm, DM1 – AG40-1
    Common Name: HK69A1, Granatpistole, GraPi
    Calibre: 40×46mmSR
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1974-1979). OBSOLETE. Replaced by AG40-1A1.
    Details: Retractable stock.

    Designation: Abschussgerät, Granate 40mm, DM1 Ausführung 1 – AG40-1A1
    Common Name: HK69A1, Granatpistole, GraPi
    Calibre: 40×46mmSR
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1979-).
    Details: Retractable stock.

    Designation: Abschussgerät, Granate 40mm, DM36 – AG40-36
    Common Name: AG36
    Calibre: 40×46mmSR
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: special service (1999-). In use with KSK, Kampfschwimmer, DSO and Feldjäger units. To fully replace the AG40-1A1 from 2004 with all infantry units.
    Details: Mounted under G36 and G36K.

    Designation: Mehrzweckpistole 1 – MZP1
    Common Name: HK69A1
    Calibre: 40×46mmSR
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with BGS, GSG9, Bereitschaftspolizei, and all SEKs.
    Details: Retractable stock. Used to fire less-than-lethal anti-riot ammunition.

    Designation: Granatmaschinenwaffe 40mm, DM1 – GMW40-1
    Common Name: GMG
    Calibre: 40×53mmSR
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: limited service (2002-). In use on armoured vehicles including Fennek armoured car.
    Details: Tripod. EOTech sight.

    Signal Pistols
    Designation: Notsignalgerät – NSG
    Common Name: Emergency Flare Launcher (EFL)
    Calibre: 19×36mm Feistel
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1979-).
    Police forces: general service.

    Designation: Signalpistole 1 – SigP1
    Common Name: LP 4-56
    Calibre: 26.5×150mmR
    Origin: ERMA-Werke, Dachau.
    Use: Armed forces: reserve service (1956-).

    Designation: Signalpistole 2 – SigP2
    Common Name: SG 4
    Calibre: 26.5×150mmR
    Origin: Diana, Rastatt.
    Use: Armed forces: reserve service (1959-).

    Designation: Signalpistole 2 Ausführung 1 – P2A1
    Common Name: P2A1
    Calibre: 26.5×150mmR
    Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1975-).
    Police forces: general service.

    Hand Grenades
    Designation: Splitter/Sprenghandgranate DM51 – SPL/SPR HGR DM51
    Common Name: DM51
    Origin: Diehl
    Use: Armed forces: general service.
    Details: Offensive grenade with optional fragmentation sleeve for use as defensive grenade.

    Designation: Brandhandgranate DM24 – BR HGR DM24
    Common Name: DM24
    Origin: Buck GmbH, Neuenburg.
    Use: Armed forces: general service.
    Details: Smoke/incendiary grenade with red phosphorous filler.

    Light Antitank Weapons
    Designation: schwere Panzerbüchse 84mm DM1 – sPZB84-1
    Common Name: M2 Carl Gustaf
    Calibre: 84×250mmR
    Origin: Förenade Fabriksverken (FFV), Eskilstuna, Sweden; Diehl AG, Röthenbach (licensed).
    Use: Armed forces: reserve service. OBSOLESCENT. Only used with illumination rounds.
    Details: Recoilless rifle. 2× scope.

    Designation: Panzerfaust 44mm DM2 Ausführung 1 Lanze – PZF44-2A1 Lanze
    Common Name: PZF44-2A1 Lanze
    Calibre: 44mm (81mm warhead)
    Origin: Dynamit Nobel AG, Troisdorf.
    Use: Armed forces: reserve service. OBSOLESCENT.
    Details: ???× scope.

    Designation: Panzerfaust 60mm DM3 – PZF60-3
    Common Name: Panzerfaust 3
    Calibre: 60mm (110mm warhead)
    Origin: Dynamit Nobel AG, Troisdorf; Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1992-). Standard light antitank weapon.
    Details: ???× scope.

    Cannon
    Designation: Feldkanone 20mm DM4 – FK20-4
    Common Name: Rh202
    Calibre: 20×139mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service. In use on twin AA mount.
    Details: Triple feed.

    Designation: Feldkanone 20mm DM5 – FK20-5
    Common Name: Rh202
    Calibre: 20×139mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service (1968-). In use on twin AA mount.
    Details: Triple feed.

    Designation: Maschinenkanone 20mm DM6 – MK20-6
    Common Name: Rh202
    Calibre: 20×139mm
    Origin: Rheinmetall GmbH, Düsseldorf.
    Use: Armed forces: general service. In use on armoured vehicles like the SPz Marder 1A5 infantry fighting vehicle, SpähPz Luchs A2, and WaTr Wiesel 1 MK.
    Details: Twin feed.

    Designation: Marineleichtgeschütz 27mm DM1 – MLG27-1
    Common Name: BK27
    Calibre: 27×145mm
    Origin: Mauser GmbH, Oberndorf.
    Use: Armed forces: limited service (2003-). 83 acquired. In use on ships.
    Details: Externally powered revolver gun.


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    you can count on ze germans to always make good arms !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilgor


    you can count on ze germans to always make good arms !
    yeah, just look at Arnie's arms, but wait he's Austrian.

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    Nvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by baker
    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    Quote Originally Posted by Pille1234
    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    Regular police forces carry the new HK P2000 pistol, but every squad-car has a MP 5 with it. There are also patrols that carry MP5 sub-machine guns.
    Regular patrols don't carry a smg, only in high thread environments such as embassy guards and so on.
    Believe me, I saw alot of patrols in Munich and Berlin carrying MP5's, it's not common but it happens.

    that's right. espacially at munich airport an so on it's quiet common that policemen carry MP5s.
    well...

    I met a policeman on a schoolyard telling children how to cycle, I asked a bit and then he showed me the MP5 in his car and his flak-vest, and I guess elementary school schoolyards arent high thread environments (outside of the usa at least)

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    Lol, I remember when the police teached us how to cycle. Wonder how many countries in the world tell their police to do this.

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    I remember seeing photos of the German police with Walther MP-L and MP-K during the Munich Olympics crisis in 1972. Any more info on their use?

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