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    I do hope its the 155mm for the T26 & retrofit on the T45. Hopefull it will trigger the reopening of the AS90 Ammo production line! with the Field artillery element of RA/RHA also looking at a 155mm replacement of the L118 it would make alot of sense to have common rounds of similar ballistics and blast plots. The main reason the T22/III ,T23 and T45 got 4.5 Mk8's was the preformance of NGFO in Falklands reinforced by the performance of ANZAC class on Al Faw Pennisula.
    At least my old TSM's prediction that AS90 was history didn't come of though RA were looking at Ceasar TF1 & M777 as possible Light gun replacements.

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    Technology Transfer Key to BAE Systems’ Proposal to the Brazilian Navy
    (Source: BAE Systems; issued October 26, 2010)

    RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil --- BAE Systems has today submitted a detailed proposal to the Brazilian Navy to supply a package of naval vessels to meet its ambitious fleet renewal programme through a full technology transfer agreement, with the ships to be built in Brazil.

    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...rtnership.html

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    A new image released of the design. Clearly they are sticking to their guns with the general design.

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    Very impressively armed, I have to say. All that remains is for it to come with all that, and not just be FFBNW!

    - A large flight deck for Merlin/Lynx Wildcat
    - Main gun of at least 4.5 cal (hopefully bigger by the time it's built)
    - 3x VLS silos, one looks like it's ASTER/tac-tom/SCALP oriented, the other two blatantly CAMM (one of them is just for'd of the hangar, of you didn't spot it)
    - ASW Torp launchers
    - Harpoon,
    - 2x 30mm guns,
    - 2x Phalanx

    plus a world-beating radar system, a world-beating sonar system, a stealthy hull and superstructure, recessed stern-launched rhibs, and no doubt lots of other goodies.

    After all the doom-and-gloom of late, it's good to see that we're still making some of the very best warfighting kit in the world.

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    Looking good.... how many of these are we getting?

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    Acc to the SDSR, 12. The youngest T23's will be given a heft upgrade, and fitted with the same radar, computer systems, sonar (some of them already have the 2087), and alot of other goodies to keep them top-line up to the 2030 timeframe.

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    If they come as speced these frigates might be better armed than our destroyers.

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    plus a world-beating radar system, a world-beating sonar system
    You should at least compare operational T26 and Fremms ASW frigates, i.e. waiting 2025, before saying something like this

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    SPY-3 AESA MFR will be a tough competitor to surmount indeed. It's a next-gen SMART-L and a next-gen APAR bundled together into a single system.

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    Babcock and Oto Melara team up

    Monday 25 October 2010 - Oto Melara (a subsidiary of the Finmeccanica Group) and Babcock International Group’s Marine Division have signed a Memorandum of Understanding to offer the Oto Melara 127mm 64cal Light Weight (LW) Medium Calibre Gun System to the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) for the Type 26 frigate for the Royal Navy.


    The 127/64 LW has already been selected by other European navies and has been developed as a complete system, including long range precision guided ammunition.

    Under the agreed co-operation between the two companies, Babcock would be the prime contractor to the MoD, leveraging its established position as a Tier 1 contractor. The arrangements would provide significant licensed work for Babcock, with opportunities for a broad UK supply chain, in assembly, test, setting to work and on-going in-service support in the UK.


    There is also potential for the system to be offered in UK sales of Type 26 derivatives for the export market.


    The Oto Melara 127/64 LW gun is capable of firing up to 35 rounds per minute. The production turret weighs less than 29 tons and the ‘peppered’ muzzle brake with an aluminium shield keeps cost down, improves maintenance and reduces radar cross-section. The gun uses an advanced ammunition handling system, consisting of four revolving drum magazines holding 56 ready-to-fire rounds of more than four different types, allowing flexibility in ammunition selection and a high rate of sustained fire. It is capable of anti-surface and anti-air defence, and area engagement. The new Vulcano ammunition is capable of precision engagement at ranges previously only achievable by missile systems but at a fraction of the cost.

    Both Babcock and Finmeccanica view this as an exciting and mutually beneficial relationship.


    Babcock Equipment Solutions managing director Roger Gillespie said: “We are delighted to be working in co-operation with Oto Melara to offer this gun system for the Type 26 frigate. Babcock is already known as a leading contractor for weapon support work for the UK MoD and is expert in the manufacture, assembly, test and setting to work of naval weapon systems. We hold a longterm Phalanx Close-in Weapon System support contract, as well as having the contract to modify Mk8 Guns to Mod1 standard, and providing logistics support for the Mod1 Gun.”

    Oto Melara senior vice president marketing and sales Ulderigo Rossi said: “The 127/64 LW medium calibre gun system is now in production for the Italian FREMM and the German F125. We are delighted to be working with a UK industrial team to offer this for the Royal Navy’s Type 26 frigate.”

    The two companies are also exploring other products and markets where they feel they may profitably co-operate.

    http://www.finmeccanica.co.uk/news_a...a_team_up.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambassador View Post
    SPY-3 AESA MFR will be a tough competitor to surmount indeed. It's a next-gen SMART-L and a next-gen APAR bundled together into a single system.
    I'm not up to speed on SPY-3, but there is a reasoning behind havig seperate radars on a warship..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSone View Post
    I'm not up to speed on SPY-3, but there is a reasoning behind havig seperate radars on a warship..
    You can be sure USN is aware of that reasoning also. USN picked a multifunctional radar design that they think suits their needs the best, and any weapon USN is going to use for its future destroyers is going to be a very potent one.

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    same thing for the Herakles radar on french Fremms.

    one question about the T26 frigates :
    Why is the rear Phalanx only covering the right of the ship ?! with the phalanx behind the 127mm turret, covering the front of the ship, that's pretty weird.



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    Current plan is one CIWS port, one starboard.

    Edit: the renders above are older and feature three CIWS. The design has changed a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyslapper View Post
    After all the doom-and-gloom of late, it's good to see that we're still making some of the very best warfighting kit in the world.
    Agreed, hopefully these cuts will be worth it for the future. It'll be good the day seeing the Type 26 along side the Type 45 and the Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carrier. Putting the 'Royal' back into Navy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPM_Sheep View Post
    One CIWS Port, one starboard.
    nope, one in the front of the ship and one port.

    nothing starboard ?!
    http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=113168

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