British Armed Forces - News and Discussion

[marktigger]

any links yet to the white paper?

[metberkut]

http://download.cabinetoffice.gov.uk...-air-force.pdf

[marktigger]

Hercules to go when A400m comes in & money wasted on Puma II programme

[james21]

So a few points.

-Number of frigates and destroyers would drop from 23 to 19 by 2020
-The Army will lose 7,000 personnel, the RAF 5,000, the Navy 5,000 and the MoD 25,000 civilian staff over the next five years.
-Nimrod MR4 is axed.
-Ark Royal axed.
-Tanks/Artillery down by 40%
-Carrier to be CATOBAR.
-12 new Chinooks.
-Harriers scrapped.
-Refurbishing the Puma helicopters.
-Nuclear Warheads held down to 120 from 160
-Trident replacement to go ahead, but will carry only 40 warheads down from 48.

[marktigger]

Navy to loose 4 frigates, a bay class and illistrious or ocean
MCM fleet to drop to 14
Rationilise defence Naval estate (which dockyard will close?)

[marktigger]

RAF transport fleet

7 C17
22 A400m
14 A-330 FSTA

[james21]

http://download.cabinetoffice.gov.uk...royal-navy.pdf


Says we loose either HMS Ocean or HMS Illustrious.
Loose 4 frigates as well as a Bay-class


..

So navy looses

RAF Harriers
Ark Royal
One Bay class
Either Ocean or Illustrious
4 Frigates

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum...=furl&CRE=sdsr

[metberkut]

Moar:

http://download.cabinetoffice.gov.uk...itish-army.pdf

http://download.cabinetoffice.gov.uk...royal-navy.pdf

[muttbutt]

So really all this talk of only 8% "I saved the defence budget" stuff from Fox was bollocks?..

[wilmet]

I'm speechless. I really don't know what to say, this is worse than I could have imagined. Once these decisions are implemented, we will not be able to rectify them for a decade. I'm just gutted...

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Navy to loose 4 frigates, a bay class and illistrious or ocean
MCM fleet to drop to 14
Rationilise defence Naval estate (which dockyard will close?)

I have the feeling Rosyth will go totally private.

[SDL]

wonder what would be changed if we could get out of the second carrier without (Expletive)ing ourselves?

[Jdam1]

The navy really has been fit hard, the Illustrious and the type 22's are gone.

You wouldnt keep the HMS Illustrious over the HMS Ocean as a helicopter ship, isnt that what Ocean was built for.

[marktigger]

astute to go to 7 vessels

[marktigger]

well he's just announced Ocean will be refitted.
Interesting future survey,patrol and MCMV will be based on common hull good idea

AS90 reduced by 35%
FRES to go ahead