Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by SDL
The Loss of our Harriers isn't a bad thing it's the act of treason by a treasonous clueless shower of wankers that know jack **** ...
I don’t want to blame everything on the RAF but there will be a lot of pressure on the navy to use the same jets as the air force in order to keep costs down.
There are also a lot of little reason we are going for the F-35 over F-18, like we have already put money into the F-35 why not get something out of it, share costs between the navy and air force, the F-18 got 2 engines means 2 times the maintenance, older airframe and so on.
The F-35 is a good aircraft especially the B and C models, it’s just can’t seem to catch a break right now.
The Loss of our Harriers isn't a bad thing it's the act of treason by a treasonous clueless shower of wankers that know jack **** ...
I disagree there.... the treasonous acts were performed in the last governments time... but that's a debate for another thread.
since we are junior partners in the F35 program doesnt that mean we get a little of the profit from each sale? I just find it a wee bit annoying that we have lost the naval fixed wing capability,im quite envious of the indians having three by 2015 if they still keep the grand old girl EX hermes.
If we can't get the F18s, then what could the Navy do for operations off the QE/PoW till the F35s arrive? Turn them into over-sized helicopter carriers? Don't the US train pilots on carriers with the Hawk? (Swear i've seen images of this in the HUGE carrier image thread) could we use a handful of those as a last resort?
just throwing out ideas, so please don't kill me if i'm being stupid LOL
If we did buy a few F35B (15?) that would solve the problem until the CATOBAR carrier arrives,lots of common parts with the C model,and we wouldnt have to convert the stovl carrier for a while.
We signed for three, sold one and (i believe) traded a 2nd for a C... so we have one LOLIf we did buy a few F35B (15?) that would solve the problem until the CATOBAR carrier arrives,lots of common parts with the C model,and we wouldnt have to convert the stovl carrier for a while.
I believe the latest USN F-35 ISD estimate is 2017. It's not worth procuring an alternative for such a small (barring any further **** ups) gap. Besides... we'll be used to doing without by then!
I'm not against buying the super hornet personally. I think at the minute the added bang-for-buck would be very handy indeed, and we'd certainly get a full capability (as opposed to a baseline capability) considerably sooner. This is a debate which has been thrashed out many times though.
That would be one very busy aircraft !!
Gotta wonder just what it's role would be... training for the first wave of pilots, Traded for a C or even sold back to LM?That would be one very busy aircraft !!
I've been hearing the rumour that the T45's are getting Harpoon a huge amount recently, any truth in the rumour?
I believe the Type 45's are "fitted for but not with" Harpoons, thus are fully prepared to receive them. I suppose it would be possible to remove Harpoon quad packs from the Type 23 fleet and retrofit them to a Type 45 as needed. Much as they do with the RN's Phalanxes within the fleet.
Thanks for the response, I'm aware of that but what made me ask was a huge increase in the volume of rumours that it's happening along with the current Phalanx fit.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-16100902.html
Not a bad idea....Hundreds of jobs could be created at Belfast's shipyard if a novel bid to buy the former flagship of the Royal Navy, HMS Ark Royal, is successful.
Lisburn-based businessman Malcolm McMullen wants to lead the transformation of the decommissioned ship into a humanitarian disaster response ship - and for historic shipyard Harland and Wolff to fit it out.
Now that would be a great second career for the old girl.
I still like the London heliport idea, though I've not heard anything of it for months.
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