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    Default Russia, Ukraine, Turkey to establish Black Sea defense alliance

    Russian, Ukrainian and Turkish defense ministries plan to establish a new alliance called the Black Sea Defense Treaty.

    Although most documents paving the way for the new regional alliance were drafted in 2003, the election of Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko in 2005 delayed the creation of the new organization for a long time.
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    Now that Ukraine has a new president in office, Kiev is ready to cooperate with Moscow and Ankara. Chief of Turkish General Staff General Ilker Basbug is expected to visit Moscow in July. The sides will probably be able to finalize all the details, and national defense ministers may sign protocols on establishing the new defense organization as early as this August.

    http://en.rian.ru/papers/20100628/159605478.html

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    To defend against what? The only thing those three nations would defend the Black Sea against is each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [WDW]Megaraptor View Post
    To defend against what? The only thing those three nations would defend the Black Sea against is each other.
    Against Georgia of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by [WDW]Megaraptor View Post
    To defend against what? The only thing those three nations would defend the Black Sea against is each other.
    To help maintain stability. With Turkey (another NATO member to the ones who are kindling their friendship to Russia) makes them quite a valuable friend to them.

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    Where's Romania, Moldova, Georgia, and Bulgaria in this happy club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    Where's Romania, Moldova, Georgia, and Bulgaria in this happy club?
    Georgia is unstable
    Moldova cannot afford a force to begin with
    Romania and Bulgaria are two nations who are not very fond of Russia (Georgia included)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
    To help maintain stability. With Turkey (another NATO member to the ones who are kindling their friendship to Russia) makes them quite a valuable friend to them.
    Turkey could make the Black Sea into the Black Lake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InetWarrior View Post
    Against Georgia of course...
    In 2008 Georgian Navy merged with the Georgian Coast Guard. So this counties are going to defend themselves from each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgian Hind View Post
    In 2008 Georgian Navy merged with the Georgian Coast Guard. So this counties are going to defend themselves from each other.
    Because Georgia has Uber ships and subs, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
    Because Georgia has Uber ships and subs, right?
    no because Georgia has no ships and subs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgian Hind View Post
    no because Georgia has no ships and subs.
    Well, regardless, that does not mean they wont have ships ever again.

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    First about economical issue we already have ;

    Organization of the Black Sea Economic Cooperation

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organiz...ic_Cooperation

    I believe this one kind of military pact more than defendin Black Sea,also Turkiye searchin Gaz & Oil at Black Sea too.

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    spheronx - Georgian Hind is right - you don't need an alliance of 3 countries to defend yourself from Georgia - not to mention Turkey and Ukraine were some of the biggest suppliers of Georgia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
    Well, regardless, that does not mean they wont have ships ever again.
    Well I don`t think that Georgian Side will bye Ships because of funds.At least for 4/5 years there is no such perspective.
    With this budged we cant have so many ships to defeat Russian Fleet So why the hell we need ships?
    The best way for Georgia to defend from Russian Ships is to bye Anti-Ship missiles.

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    Good step . lm not akpian but l support zero problem with all neighbours policy .

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