Reply With QuoteGreen Dom ERDL
Brown Dom ERDL,Post war RDF jacket
Eh, I dont mind UCP, and it's cost five billion dollars to get UCP fielded.
No way in hell we should switch camo. The cost alone makes it a foolish decision.
Green Dom ERDL
Brown Dom ERDL,Post war RDF jacket
Someone on this site claimed that the development of ERDL was actually begun in 1948, then it was shelved until the 60s. I would like to hear that verified or de-bunked.
Originally Posted by panzerwerk
Green Dom ERDL
Brown Dom ERDL,Post war RDF jacket
Man I love the green dominant pattern.
Last edited by G-AWZT; 07-03-2010 at 01:40 AM. Reason: spelling
Putting ERDL into google brings this
http://www.vietnamgear.com/dictionary/erdl.aspx
and this (yes I know its wiki)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERDL_pattern
But both give same information on its origin
...bit like BDUs and DCUs then.... D'oh!!“A family is considered to be of the same or similar geometry with coordinating color palettes to cross the global operating environments. Global operating environments are defined by a geographic classification system that subdivides the global landmasses into areas with similar environmental characteristics.”
I thought the yanks were adopting multicam after the success in Afghan? Or is that just for an interim Afghan issue? Does this mean that the US will have to conduct colour matching trials prior to operations in future countries?
I can see the development of a new, elite unit. With the role of covert insertion ahead of any other unit, the 3rd TPF (Tester Pot Force) would work closely with it's British counterpart, the B&Q Paintmatchers....
From the sound of the article that I posted.
Woodland is supposed to work in temperate to jungle and the desert is supposed to work in low and high deserts along with a transition pattern between them (which oh my smells like they want to keep MultiCam).
Good camo is very little art and all science.
I just want some UCP-D to show up in the civilian market. I think the Army should pickup a version of the MARPAT and be unified BDU/DCU style.
UCP pattern web gear, Multicam pattern web gear, Woodland pattern web gear....
Here's a thought, since shades of brown and green are predominant in the world, make the web gear from random pieces of foliage, coyote, flat dark earth, olive green and olive drab. Need that piece that runs from A to B? Reach in to a basket of mixed colors and grab one. No two sets will look alike, but who parades around in web gear? Need the K to L bit? reach in another box.
AOR 1/2 and Coyote web gear. There you have it.
That would be too easy for big Army, they want to revolutionize camo and LBE.
Art is a science. Color and design are fundamental chapters in Art.
Does a camo pattern really need to be tested to death? I think a few sensible choices and a handful of tests should do the trick. Yes there's a science to it, but in the end it comes down to what best confuses the naked eye.
UCP-D was a step in the right direction as far as universal camo goes, though a the sage green in UCP needs to be made greener and the grey should cover less area. Digital multicam would work almost everywhere except open desert. Marpat is already proven. Why so much song and dance from the army?
I think in this case, the Army is actually trying to do a good thing. They jumped into UCP with both feet, with out bothering to do much of any tests with it, and now, 5 or so years later, we're replacing it. I think the idea this time is to be damn sure we're getting the best pattern we can before we invest a huge chunk of change into it. I think its retarded we don't go with one of the current, good, off the shelf patterns, but I can understand the reason for not doing so.
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