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    Default Silent Hornet ?

    Look at what Boeing is up to:



    "enclosed weapons pod"

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    I want one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xav View Post
    Look at what Boeing is up to:

    "enclosed weapons pod"
    Boeing is not going far enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowMan View Post
    Boeing is not going far enough.
    Is it obsolete?

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    The real question is, 'can they sell it?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapdad View Post
    Is it obsolete?
    Boeing is not reading the potential client's intentions correctly.

    All the nations that could potentially fund that "Silent Hornet" want full 5th gen solutions by 2020, including all aspect stealth and supercruise.

    "Silent Eagle" makes sense because it will be ready before F-35 and is an excellent air-superiority fighter for existing F-15 operators.

    No one would be willing to pay for the cost of setting up a totally new support infrastructure for this new "Silent Hornet" in the 2020s. Potential customer nations would be engineering their own stealth fighters by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    The real question is, 'can they sell it?'
    If some country can not get or do not want F35 or F15 Silent Eagle then sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    The real question is, 'can they sell it?'
    No, Boeing doesn't go far enough and there is even less structural modification than F-15SE.

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    Super bug already has quite a few low observability features, but damn I'm liking what they've got planned.

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    I'm liking what they done - that said though, what the hell? Boeing have a 'proprietary system' ins ervice now thats not discussed at all? !! wtf? they got some goodness hiding out some where at Groom or TTR?

    Sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowMan View Post
    Boeing is not reading the potential client's intentions correctly.

    All the nations that could potentially fund that "Silent Hornet" want full 5th gen solutions by 2020, including all aspect stealth and supercruise.

    "Silent Eagle" makes sense because it will be ready before F-35 and is an excellent air-superiority fighter for existing F-15 operators.

    No one would be willing to pay for the cost of setting up a totally new support infrastructure for this new "Silent Hornet" in the 2020s. Potential customer nations would be engineering their own stealth fighters by then.
    There's no great design modification here, most of the stuff like the new engines and weapons pod will be easy and cheap to integrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2495 View Post
    I'm liking what they done - that said though, what the hell? Boeing have a 'proprietary system' ins ervice now thats not discussed at all? !! wtf? they got some goodness hiding out some where at Groom or TTR?

    Sweet.
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    What could it be? Next bomber demonstrator? (But latest news was that DoD was gonna cancel next Bomber and keep using B52)

    Stealth Navy Bomber/Fighter (a la A12 Avenger?) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeah_Really View Post
    Super bug already has quite a few low observability features, but damn I'm liking what they've got planned.
    But it's a wrong product arriving at wrong time.

    F-15SE fills a niche that F-35 doesn't fill; it is a better air-superiority fighter than F-35 is, for a lot less money to existing F-15 operators.

    F/A-18SH is a strike aircraft whose role overlaps with F-35s, and F-35 is a better strike aircraft than F/A-18SH is. And there are no previous Super Hornet client nations other than Australia.

    This is why F-15SE makes sense in terms of product positioning but F/A-18SH doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeah_Really View Post
    There's no great design modification here, most of the stuff like the new engines and weapons pod will be easy and cheap to integrate.
    I think Boeing got carried away with positive customer responses toward Silent Eagle and pulled this one.

    No one would want this. For strike aircraft, F-35 already cornered the market.

    It is the 5th-gen air superiority fighter market that is left in void with cancellation of F-22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowMan View Post
    F/A-18SH is a strike aircraft whose role overlaps with F-35s
    F18SH is a multi-role fighter possibly better than both F35 and F15 in this "multi-role" aspect.

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