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The Point of No Return (Israel/Iran be warned)
I know that this subject have been chewed to death and I try to stay away from it but this artical was intresting enough for me to start this thread.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...return/8186/1/The Point of No Return
BY JEFFREY GOLDBERG
For the Obama administration, the prospect of a nuclearized Iran is dismal to contemplate— it would create major new national-security challenges and crush the president’s dream of ending nuclear proliferation. But the view from Jerusalem is still more dire: a nuclearized Iran represents, among other things, a threat to Israel’s very existence. In the gap between Washington’s and Jerusalem’s views of Iran lies the question: who, if anyone, will stop Iran before it goes nuclear, and how? As Washington and Jerusalem study each other intensely, here’s an inside look at the strategic calculations on both sides—and at how, if things remain on the current course, an Israeli air strike will unfold.
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The neocons are coming back to life.
yeah pretty much. It's a shame they took over the Republican foreign policy establishment
No matter where you stand this will not end in a good way, and no matter the outcome it will be America's fault.
So Iran will one day be able to pack a couple of nukes on some scud missiles? Even as insane are hasanmenehijad is he should know that his country will be turned into glass by the Israeli's.
What else can we do? All the peaceful methods have been expended with no effect towards the ending of the nuclear programs. I guess what has to be done, will be done.
Exactly. While I don't want Iran to have nukes, I think this may actually be better for U.S. interests in the long-term as they long as they don't proliferate technology and/or know-how - that's another debateOriginally Posted by beNder
1.) Building nukes and sufficient delivery systems will cost a bunch of treasure to Iran, and will force them to use their ever dwindling oil cash on these weapons rather than on other areas which could hurt our interests more.
2.) Most Arab countries Iran more than Israel - their fear of Iran will push them closer to the U.S. and invite the U.S. to expand our influence in the region.
3.) They won't use nukes because they will most likely get shot down and turned to glass
4.) When the Iranians see they have nukes, but not an economy and are still poor, they're gonna get real angry at the government.
Stop our demand for oil in the region.
Park the car and walk more, bike more, and take transit.
This is America man, we use SUV's to dive to the mailbox every evening.
...how's them electric cars work'n out for ya? There are solutions and not all of them involve drilling in Alaska but none of them doable are due to opposition from the left because they force their vision by limiting the options to foreign oil. Biodiesel would be a great option in the interim but the left thinks we can **** 300 mile per charge cars if they oppose all other options. The right opposes options because of lobbying and special interests (American car companies for one). They don't want to re-tool and the EPA won't budge. So I guess the only option is to bomb Iran...to bad. I personally would love to see the middle east dry up and blow away in the desert because nobody needs them anymore.
My solution is to impose a $1.00 per gallon gas tax.
Then Americans will get off thier lazy ass, get creative and start innovating for alternatives.
Reducing the demand for oil from abroad and money into the coffers of despots.
The externalities may reduce of deficits, combat obesity, and increased investment into alternative energy.
Punishment never works and the only incentive needed is the one for profit. $5 a gallon was not enough laxitive to make an efficient electric car last year, in fact the dumba$$es at Government Motors ars still making big fat SUV's.
How does this effect Iran? We import the majority of our oil from the South Americas. You're running off on a tangent here.
Actually from Canada, then Mexico, then South America. But oil is a global futures market. So if we use less oil the price oil goes down across the world.
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