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M60 is nice i know,but...
@ Andreas: I would like to know the specs as well but none have surfaced so far. The gun was built to compete with MG's like the FN MAG / M240 - so I guess it won't be superlight since it must be able to handle a high volume of fire and still have long service life with no parts breakages. HK has learned quite a lot about mgs in recent years (MG4, UK gpmg ) - so I guess we can assume it's just as reliable (or more) as the competition.
this guns makes rambo-ing possible
M60 is nice i know,but...
Looks a lot like the FNs
Is this supposed to be a GPMG o a 7.62 LMG, like the Mk. 48?
Read the first post...
Originally Posted by pmj
In the beginning there was some talk that HK and the Bundeswehr considered designing a true 7.62 LMG for dismounted infantry ala' PKM / Pecheng (all rumors mind you). Eventually the Bundeswehr wanted a real bullet-hose - so far there is no info on how much the HK 121 wheighs. That would answer some questions about how this gun would / could be used.
Is this a evolution of the MG 4? For some reason, they seem rather similar to me in outward appearance.
So far noone knows what's under that hood, but my personal uneducated guess is that the HK 121 is more than just an upscaled MG4. I guess the action could be similar.
What will be the official Bundeswehr designation? MG5?
AFAIK the weight of the prototype shown in Hammelburg was 10,8 kg.
Ahhh thank you!
10,8 kg - pretty much the same weight as the M240. It seems HK is trying to compete against the FN Mag / M240 rather than the Mk 48. It makes sense with both the UK and France looking to replace their old GPMG's.
Maybe they'll build a lighter PKM-style gun someday....
There was also some speculation that it could be similar to the MAG internally, since HK got the contract from the UK MOD to make them.
I guess time will tell.
There is not. The MAG design is well known from mid 1950s, so the H&K has a half of century to learn about it, not the last few years, when then started to manufacture the GPMG
I haven't seen any internals photos of the HK 121, so it's pure speculation on my part what the beast's guts look like. The weight at least would be consistent with some sort of rear locking system.
In any case, HK had their line of roller-locked belt fed weapons previously. Only recently have they developed any interest in copying 50 year old breech mechanisms like that of the AR-16.
Ekhm... have you ever heard about G36 or MG4? What roller-locked? Have you been frozen nearly 20 years or what? I think that you've missed one generation of weapons from Oberndorf
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